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E132 - Jeff Krasno: “Comfort is Killing You” - Know THIS about Stress & Anxiety

28 Jan 2025

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Jeff Krasno, the visionary founder of Commune, shares how to unlock your human potential in our modern world.  He and André reflect on the transformative power of surrender, particularly during the harrowing LA fires. Jeff shares his insights on navigating adversity and the importance of embracing "good stress" through practices like cold plunges, exercise, and meditation. As they delve deeper, Jeff discusses the pursuit of health in a world often plagued by illness. He shares his thoughts on unlocking human potential and the practices that can lead to optimal wellness.  Whether you’re seeking to improve your physical health, enhance your mental well-being, or deepen your spiritual connection, this episode is filled with valuable insights that can inspire and motivate you on your journey. Sponsor: Convenient and affordable therapy with BetterHelp. Get started today and enjoy 10% off your first month: https://www.betterhelp.com/knowthyself André's Book Recommendations: https://www.knowthyself.one/books ___________ 0:00 Intro  2:17 LA Fires: Surrendering in the Chaos 12:23 Why We Need Good Stress 20:14 Modern Living Contradicts our Biology  27:43 Ad: BetterHelp 29:21 The Tao of Health: Reclaim Your Sovereignty  43:19 Attaining Homeostasis in the Body 49:07 Impermanence & Interdependance 1:00:08 What Nature Teaches Us 1:06:42 Working With Wim Hoff & Unlocking Human Potential 1:14:52 Mortality and Health Span 1:25:44 Power of Mindfulness 1:33:34 Conclusion  ___________ Jeff is the co-founder and CEO of Commune, a masterclass platform for personal and societal well-being. He hosts the Commune podcast, interviewing a wide variety of health experts and luminaries from Andrew Huberman and Marianne Williamson to Matthew McConaughey and Gabor Maté. Jeff pens a personal weekly essay titled “Commusings” that explores spirituality, wellness and culture and is distributed to over one million subscribers every Sunday. Jeff is the author of Good Stress, a collection of wellness protocols that he developed to reverse his diabetes, lose 60 pounds and reclaim his health at age 50. Jeff and his better three-quarters, Schuyler Grant, own and operate Commune Topanga, a 10-acre wellness center and production lab where they host regular retreats together featuring yoga, cold plunging, sauna bathing, lectures and story-telling. Jeff & Schuyler have three beautiful daughters, Phoebe, Lolli and Micah. They currently live in Los Angeles, California. Pre-order New Book “Good Stress”: https://www.onecommune.com/goodstressbook#preorder Website: https://www.jeffkrasno.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeffkrasno/ ___________ Know Thyself Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/knowthyself/ Website: https://www.knowthyself.one Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4wglCWTJeWQC0exBalgKg Listen to all episodes on Audio:  Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4FSiemtvZrWesGtO2MqTZ4?si=d389c8dee8fa4026 Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/know-thyself/id1633725927 André Duqum Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreduqum/

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0.029 - 24.991 Jeff Krasno

We so often associate health with downward spirals, but upward spirals are completely possible. In this day and age, we're largely choosing the way we die with very, very little thoughtfulness. We essentially evolved for a certain amount of stress, but we've engineered our lives at every single turn, often in the name of profit for ease and convenience.

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25.151 - 53.58 Jeff Krasno

Doing hard things has incredible benefits, and it also makes doing other hard things easier. It really doesn't take that long for your body to gain momentum and it is available to people. Health exists along this dynamic spectrum. We have a certain amount of jurisdiction over our trajectory on that spectrum. Sort of embracing this idea that I am process and not product.

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54.041 - 58.142 Jeff Krasno

I'm not even close to the same person than I was when I began this conversation.

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64.608 - 89.266 André Duqum

Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Know Thyself. It's been an interesting past couple weeks just hopping back on the podcast saddle. And I missed you guys. I'm joined today with a dear friend, Jeff Krasnow, who is... creator, founder of One Commune, which is an amazing, really pioneering organization, community podcast.

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90.146 - 103.675 André Duqum

He also is a co-creator of Wanderlust, which was a series and is a series of global wellness events. And he also lives in the same town as I did, which we were just talking beforehand about the wild journey of these LA fires. And

104.415 - 127.351 André Duqum

them encroaching you know in my case a few houses away very close to him as well in the canyon where we live and um you know there's going to be a lot of themes i'm sure that'll show up throughout this podcast about what stress is how anxiety shows up um how modern conveniences and comfort really leads to chronic disease and so much but jeff thanks for being here man

127.737 - 150.922 Jeff Krasno

Yeah. Great to be here with you, Andre. I so appreciate it. And obviously I was thinking about you over the last couple of weeks as our greater community here in Los Angeles has been grappling and enduring these fires. And, um, yeah, I mean, fortunately, of course we were, we were, our locations were spared. Um, and, uh,

154.434 - 187.655 Jeff Krasno

Yeah, I mean, I have a bit of survivor's guilt associated with it because obviously we both have communities that have lost a tremendous amount. And, you know, when the fires first started, I really surrendered to our place, Commune Topanga. potentially being reduced to ash. And this was a moment kind of where the spiritual rubber sort of meets the hard, unforgiving reality, right?

188.416 - 224.279 Jeff Krasno

And, you know, part of my spiritual practice is non-attachment, right? That I can be here and now with my full passionate self, but unattached to result. the buddha's teachings but then when you're faced with the reality right of like oh my god this place that i've built where i've forged so many deep profound relationships This place is at risk. It might disappear.

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