Jeff Krasno

Yeah, absolutely. Well, first of all, Drew, thanks for having me. You are just such a great friend and you platform so many amazing people. And I'm very grateful to be here. So, yeah, listen, for hundreds of thousands of years, Homo sapiens, and even beyond that for millions of years, hominids have evolved in relationship to their environment. You know, to be alive is to be in relationship.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, first of all, Drew, thanks for having me. You are just such a great friend and you platform so many amazing people. And I'm very grateful to be here. So, yeah, listen, for hundreds of thousands of years, Homo sapiens, and even beyond that for millions of years, hominids have evolved in relationship to their environment. You know, to be alive is to be in relationship.

Yeah, absolutely. Well, first of all, Drew, thanks for having me. You are just such a great friend and you platform so many amazing people. And I'm very grateful to be here. So, yeah, listen, for hundreds of thousands of years, Homo sapiens, and even beyond that for millions of years, hominids have evolved in relationship to their environment. You know, to be alive is to be in relationship.

And so we've evolved these adaptive mechanisms in relation to what I sometimes call paleolithic stress. But since the Industrial Revolution, in the West primarily, but really accelerating in the last 70 years, at every turn, we've engineered our society for comfort, for convenience, for ease. And it's my thesis that chronic ease is actually leading to chronic dis-ease.

And so we've evolved these adaptive mechanisms in relation to what I sometimes call paleolithic stress. But since the Industrial Revolution, in the West primarily, but really accelerating in the last 70 years, at every turn, we've engineered our society for comfort, for convenience, for ease. And it's my thesis that chronic ease is actually leading to chronic dis-ease.

And so we've evolved these adaptive mechanisms in relation to what I sometimes call paleolithic stress. But since the Industrial Revolution, in the West primarily, but really accelerating in the last 70 years, at every turn, we've engineered our society for comfort, for convenience, for ease. And it's my thesis that chronic ease is actually leading to chronic dis-ease.

We are essentially using our culture to hijack our biology, and that is leading to all sorts of detrimental downstream impacts. And I can unpack just some of those mechanisms.

We are essentially using our culture to hijack our biology, and that is leading to all sorts of detrimental downstream impacts. And I can unpack just some of those mechanisms.

We are essentially using our culture to hijack our biology, and that is leading to all sorts of detrimental downstream impacts. And I can unpack just some of those mechanisms.

In modern times, we have a negative association with stress and totally justifiably, right? Because in the modern age, stress is chronic. And chronic stress, as you well know, leads to imbalances in the human organism and by extension, disease. But stress at its core is actually an adaptive response to our environment. So I live up in the hills of Los Angeles.

In modern times, we have a negative association with stress and totally justifiably, right? Because in the modern age, stress is chronic. And chronic stress, as you well know, leads to imbalances in the human organism and by extension, disease. But stress at its core is actually an adaptive response to our environment. So I live up in the hills of Los Angeles.

In modern times, we have a negative association with stress and totally justifiably, right? Because in the modern age, stress is chronic. And chronic stress, as you well know, leads to imbalances in the human organism and by extension, disease. But stress at its core is actually an adaptive response to our environment. So I live up in the hills of Los Angeles.

I'm apt to go for a hike generally before I have a podcast, for example, to clear my head. And every once in a while on that little serpentine path, I'll run into like a rattlesnake or a coyote, right? And I have a very, very natural adaptive response to stress. I see the rattlesnake on the path. What happens, right? I have a bottom-up response. My heart rate and my respiratory rate increase.

I'm apt to go for a hike generally before I have a podcast, for example, to clear my head. And every once in a while on that little serpentine path, I'll run into like a rattlesnake or a coyote, right? And I have a very, very natural adaptive response to stress. I see the rattlesnake on the path. What happens, right? I have a bottom-up response. My heart rate and my respiratory rate increase.

I'm apt to go for a hike generally before I have a podcast, for example, to clear my head. And every once in a while on that little serpentine path, I'll run into like a rattlesnake or a coyote, right? And I have a very, very natural adaptive response to stress. I see the rattlesnake on the path. What happens, right? I have a bottom-up response. My heart rate and my respiratory rate increase.

My liver secretes just the right amount of glucose to center my extremities to fight or flee. My pupils dilate. The aperture of my attention becomes super, super tight. I become... self-obsessed and distrust the world. And that's all for good reason, because that serves my biological imperative to survive. And of course, we inherited this mechanism from our hunter-gatherer ancestors.

My liver secretes just the right amount of glucose to center my extremities to fight or flee. My pupils dilate. The aperture of my attention becomes super, super tight. I become... self-obsessed and distrust the world. And that's all for good reason, because that serves my biological imperative to survive. And of course, we inherited this mechanism from our hunter-gatherer ancestors.

My liver secretes just the right amount of glucose to center my extremities to fight or flee. My pupils dilate. The aperture of my attention becomes super, super tight. I become... self-obsessed and distrust the world. And that's all for good reason, because that serves my biological imperative to survive. And of course, we inherited this mechanism from our hunter-gatherer ancestors.

The problem in modern society is the rattlesnake never leaves the path for so many people. So we're in this chronic state of agitation.

The problem in modern society is the rattlesnake never leaves the path for so many people. So we're in this chronic state of agitation.