Henry & Eddie bring you this week's biggest stories and true crime news in this super-sized Side Stories - Pope Watch 2025 comes to an abrupt end as the world reacts to the death of Pope Francis, a Florida woman poses as ICE agent to kidnap her ex's wife, a Phoenix man loses an eye in viscious attack over a "Hey - How ya' doin?", and while we patiently await the verdict of Lori Vallow's most recent trial, the boys are joined by Captain Ron Janix (Host of Coast To Coast's "Beyond Contact" Podcast) to discuss the evolution of the Contact in the Desert Conference, UFO Life, and a little preview of whats to come at Contact in the Desert this year... For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.
Chapter 1: What are the reactions to the death of Pope Francis?
Yeah, a little rhythm. Yeah, a little rhythm, a little Pope is Dead music. Well, you know, it's important because it's important today to really recognize the fact the curse has been broken and News has finally happened and time for side stories to talk about it. I know. It has finally happened. We've been waiting for something like this for years. It has never happened.
The Pope always gets better. Yeah, he loves getting better. He always goes dipping down and then pulling up the nose, make everybody get all excited, starting up the conclave, sending out the invites. This Pope died like five times. He's been dead.
that's the other thing he's been dead for six months at least they said irreversible heart failure is how he died i actually i'd heard i saw a stroke yeah well he was stroking oh stroking to the east stroking to the west stroking to the boy that i love best he is stroking pope francis's dad hey how you doing welcome to side stories My name is Henry Zebrowski. I'm sitting here with Ed Larson.
How you doing? Stoking. I want to be the first... Stoking to the atheists. Stoking to the... To bless the Pope after he's dead.
You know, a lot of people immediately... And the name of the dad. And the boy. And the ghost. And the enchanted...
Something. Apparition. Yep. I want to say a lot of people said Henry Zebrowski is going to come out hard with the, you know, the Pope harboring molesters joke about how, you know, how he's, you know, him and Whoopi Goldberg, I think, had an affair together. There's a lot of people, him, he was coming for that Ted Danson ex-wife material. Oh, yeah.
I think that there's a lot of people that were expecting me to say stuff like that. But I want to say Papu Jorge, me so sorry you dead. Yeah, man. Papu Jorge, I'm so sorry that the last thing that you had to see was J.D. Vance's fat face, but everybody else was also saying the same thing. We've all seen the millions of jokes about J.D. Vance killing the Pope. He was probably already dead.
Oh, we're saying... Just sitting there. I think that the Pope's been dead for two months. I think so. I think they knew that they had to drag... How did he get fatter? I don't know. And, you know, whatever it is, apparently when you gain cancer, it's not like... But he didn't have cancer. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff.
He probably had everything.
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Chapter 2: What is the controversy surrounding the next Pope?
That, to me, is the grossest part of this, but yeah, please, start sucking. And so he says that he's saying no to masturbation, right? He says sex is one of the most beautiful things that God has given to the human person, even though he's never even seen it. He doesn't know. He has no idea. He doesn't know about sex. He doesn't even know. Does he know what queefing is? No.
But while in the favor of sex, masturbation, he still says is a big no-no. Masturbation's a no-no? No-no.
You know what's a big no-no? Having sex with children. That's a big old fat no-no.
A lot of those guys, it's a bit of a yes, yes. They are very, very, they're super into it. Yeah. Criminally so. So now we are mourning the passing of Il Papu.
The next one's... Mourning as in it's, you know, it's early. It's 2.15. Yeah.
I think that the next pope is gonna suck. They have to suck. We went from Nazi to halfway decent. Sort of. Sort of. Again, I still feel like it's giving him too much credit. There's no reason to like a pope. No, it's like a president. It's like a king. Anybody that likes anybody that is in charge by some form of... It's the largest cult in the world.
So this secret group gets together and puts together—they all decide what they have interpreted, what God has told them to choose, who the guy is to be pope. And they've chose multiple Nazis. They've chose multiple war criminals. They've chose—it's like, so I don't want to fucking hear it. So now the next pope is going to be some other guy. It's probably going to be like— It's going to be Bezos.
No, I don't even know if he can. There's an American running. He doesn't want to live in the Vatican. It's too small for him.
We might have our first American pope. I forget the guy's name. Oh, great.
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Chapter 3: What is the latest update on the Lori Vallow trial verdict?
It's obviously, it's slightly less of a sentence, too. But I do think that once they find out that after the fact that she's murdered her children, they're going to be pretty upset if they let her go on this one. Oh, my God. We still don't know where that is. We just don't know where it is. And Lori Vallow, so the answer is she can have answers.
She can have questions that her assisting attorney can answer to her. And then there's other things that you can do. Sometimes they allow you to testify to a narrative where they allow you to just extemporaneously talk.
Where you can monologue at the jury. She can. Both of us almost said audience.
Yes, it is.
We're such fucking performers.
But that's all it would be.
That's all it is.
But then but the problem again is that then she would be open to cross examination. And the last thing that she wanted was to be spoken to by another woman, which is the saddest thing. I think in the end, she just hates she definitely hates this prosecuting attorney. Nothing would make me happier than watching this prosecuting attorney nail her to a fucking wall.
But it's just we it's not going to happen.
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Chapter 4: What happened in the Florida ICE agent impersonation kidnapping case?
That's what this lady doesn't get.
She doesn't know the rules of Mafia. She just knows the rules of ICE. Yeah. Show up to our schools, apparently. That's what they like. Then she was fleeing to Alabama. She got caught, and she was charged with kidnapping and commission of a felony, robbery by sudden snatching, impersonating a law officer, and the commission of a felony and felony violation of probation. So she's fucked.
Wow. That's just like... I mean, that's a long way to go to get revenge. You really don't need to do all that much for that much revenge. What was her plan, though? I just think... Was she going to try and deport this woman? I think that she was going to try to... To be honest, I think that she was rolling for as long as she could with just kind of improvising, saying yes and to herself.
And then I think eventually... She realized like, oh, this isn't going to play out unless I kill this woman.
Yeah, I think it's good. If you're going to commit a crime, I think it's good to have a goal. It's like writing a book.
It's like writing a book. is knowing the ending. He's like, everything else you'll figure out. But if you know the beginning and the ending, you could do a lot to get from A to Z. And so that's the main thing. For anybody looking to do a long con... That, think of the ending in mind. And also, two, take the complications out of it.
You can just grab the woman coming out of work and putting her in the back of your car. You know what I mean? You don't need to get a costume. You don't need licenses or any of that stuff. You can't just whack her in the back of the head when she's coming out of the bathroom. So I would say also that's not advice. No, as much as it's just, you know, what are you doing here, lady?
Just think about if you're going to do a crime, just understand that it's going to keep going. It's going to keep going. And I have one other story I want to do. Oh, please. Arizona is not a friendly place. And nothing really says that quite like the story.
They're about to let Lori Vallow off.
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Chapter 5: What is the story behind the Phoenix man losing an eye in an attack?
I think he covered up a teardrop.
But that doesn't make sense, though. Why would you cover up the teardrop? Isn't the teardrop supposed to let everybody know you killed somebody in prison?
Yeah.
Isn't that what a teardrop is?
I got a teardrop tattoo next to my brown eye for all the dookies I've slain. Ugh. Goddamn. It's the poor tattoo artist having to get in there. It's a god. He was able to model it after his own teardrop. Whoa. Because he was crying. Lonely teardrops.
Is that what that song's about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my tears will never dry. Lollatool drops. That was actually one of the first Motown hits.
Oh, really?
We learned that. It was written by, what's his name?
It was written by Barry Gordy. Man, what a great time at the Motown Museum. Yeah, we went to the Motown Museum. We had a great weekend. And Detroit's wonderful. Yeah, we had a fucking awesome time.
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Chapter 6: Who is Captain Ron Janix and what is Contact in the Desert?
Those guys like, I got to go see this. And then it was just like so much thrown at me at once. You can really ramp up your knowledge.
quickly in five days did you did you always were you always into ufos like what got you to all to all this you know i never had an experience i'm not an experiencer or anything like that but i've always had a curiosity to that i always like things that are unknown i like those shows in search of anything that's like that i liked art bell if you guys remember art bell he's my patron saint
There you go. I loved that stuff. And I kind of fell into a buddy of mine who had a podcast about UFOs. He's like, you're really into this. Why don't you come on? And then we did Truth Be Told together for years and years and years. So I just, and you know, the more you do it, every time you interview somebody, you learn that much more.
Maybe you read their book before they come on, or you read stuff about them, you watch their lectures, and you just, gross, gross, gross, gross.
Were you a stand-up? Did you do comedy? Because you're very funny. Did you do stuff like that? What were you doing that got you to decide that you wanted to talk about it? Because a lot of guys get into the material, but they're not microphone or camera ready.
You know, it's just one of those things. I was a personal assistant for 20 years, working for celebrities in Hollywood, so I I never really was in front of the camera or any of that.
So you're used to harboring secrets. Yeah.
And I'm the behind-the-scenes guy, absolutely. You know, I was always behind the scenes. But it doesn't bother me. I'm open to either role. You'd never guess.
I saw you, like, running stuff last year. You were, like, emceeing. Like, oh, it's like... It's like, oh, there's Nick Pump. Come on up here. You bring him on stage. You make him uncomfortable. Answer some questions. Love it. I love it. It was great. It was like a true, like, oh, no one reminded me of Playboy After Dark.
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Chapter 7: How has Captain Ron Janix's experience shaped his involvement in UFO culture?
No one has ever said that about Content in the Desert before.
That's for sure. I'm still not ready to say it, Ron. I will follow it up.
I will. But it's like, yeah, you're just walking around. You know what? You're schmoozing with people. You lean on a table like, hey, Whitley, how you doing, buddy? What's going on?
You know, I've been doing this now for about 14, 15 years. I've interviewed all these guys. I've got to know some of them and become friendly with them. And we almost feels like to us that Contact in the Desert is sort of like a banquet for a community. You know, it's almost like an annual thing that we know we all go there. We all meet here. What have you been working on this year?
What have you been doing? You know, a lot of these guys know each other. Some of them don't see each other until Contact next year. I feel like there should be a yearbook. Almost.
Almost. You know what I mean? Do you ever do, like, through all of this process, like... There's one side of you, obviously. You run, and you're the proprietor of Contact in the Desert. So that's one side of you. On the other side of you, you've been experiencing these people at the center of ufology personally for 15 years. Where has it taken your beliefs?
Well, I'll tell you what. My whole life, I am right here, man. I am right in the middle. I am the middle of all of this. So I'm very skeptical, but I'm very open-minded. I am... A lot of these guys have gone on some of these other shows and they want me to say provocative stuff. They're like, what's the craziest thing you'll say?
Sure.
And I'm like, you got the wrong guy. I'm not that guy.
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Chapter 8: What can attendees expect from Contact in the Desert this year?
Or my mom told me a story when I was a little girl. You know, you hear these things. It's amazing how prolific that is.
So let me ask you something. As someone who obviously believes you're the owner, co-owner of Contact in the Desert, you've never had an experience. Are you like actively looking at the skies or you just go about your day?
No, I'm not that guy. I'm somebody that puts credence into what Avi Loeb says, credence into John Mack says. I think Travis Walton is awesome. Yeah. I got to know Travis Walton. I did a whole special thing on his 45th anniversary. I brought his brother back in. I brought the original people in. We had a big thing.
pretty freaking believable man i mean travis walton's but honestly the thing that switched me at contact last year because it's just like the other guys have no reason to lie the other guy they all told the same story and i love that like travis walton when he gets out of the car he's he's looking at the ship and he's talking shit he's yelling at him he's throwing shit he's fucking screaming they kicked his ass they brought him up and then he comes back without a scratch
All of this is plausible to me. All of this makes sense. Exactly those guys would be like that. Of course those guys would take off. Of course they'd be scared. All of it's very plausible to me. Even Roswell's plausible. And there's so many of these ancillary things that fit in. The Travis Walton case, it's also great that there's one incident. Yes.
I'll tell you another thing for me personally that I probably shouldn't say because this will bite me in the ass. But... When you come to me and you're Travis Walton and you say, listen, this one day, this one thing happened to me. I was out in the woods. The ship was there. I got beamed on and that was it. Maybe lightning strikes.
It's these guys I can't stand that, oh, you know, I've been to Mars and I've worked on alien bodies and I've been underground on spaceships and I've been underground on Earth with the military working on this and I've operated on alien bodies and I've got implants.
can i ask you i want to ask your opinion then with stuff guys like that i'm i'm torn because i think that guys like that obviously they believe the more details they throw into some kind of story that the more real it sounds but i actually also wonder like what do you think their other motives are because number one there is people always say oh money they sell book rights let me let me straighten it out for you
There's not a heck of a lot of money in ufology, especially in the book markets. And then to the idea of just or is it to just for attention? Like, I do understand people lie for that attention. But I also wonder if there's ever something to this idea that there is some massive like we just did the Montauk project.
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