⚡ [AIE CODE Preview] Inside Google Labs: Building The Gemini Coding Agent — Jed Borovik, Jules
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What is the overall focus of the episode and how does it start?
Okay. Jed Borovic, welcome to Lane Space. Yeah, thanks for having me. Uh so we're sitting here at F dot Inc's uh beautiful podcast studios and we're actually meeting at GitHub Universe. Um how's it been so far?
It's been great. Um I mean yeah, the keynote today was was awesome. It was fun to see Jules up there a little bit. You know, but we have a a lot of folks from our team here. Um Jules is yeah, partnering with uh GitHub for the new Asian HQ stuff, which we're excited about. And also this is a this is an incredible podcast space. So yeah, I'm excited to yeah. Yeah.
I'm glad for them to to loan us a space. Uh you're also M C for AI Engineer Code. Uh that's exciting in New York where you you went to college but you don't live there anymore.
Yeah, no, I spent a bunch of time in New York. You know, it's funny, um being part of the New York tech scene. I actually think it's great having big major conferences there. Like I think uh you know, so there's a lot obviously that happens on the west coast. Um, but being someone in tech on the east coast, it's yeah, it's just awesome to have have stuff there. So yeah. Yeah,
you mentioned you fly over to SF a lot and uh like like what's it what what's the scene like in the East Coast? Like uh like obviously we are pretty new in we're like this is our first year coming to New York. Um what what else it happens in the New York like what are the highlights for you in the New York tech scenes?
Yeah, I mean there's so much. There's uh you know, obviously a ton of great companies. Um I think the thing that's interesting about New York is it's such a big city with so much going on. Right. And so there's like, you know, tech is a huge part of it, but there's also, you know, so many major industries there, whether it's fashion media, fashion, finance, like it's uh um and somebody's like I think that helps push the tech, um and do do do all kinds of stuff. Um but yeah, no, Discos is a great city, the great s you know, the the uh all the schools there's you know, all across the East Coast, um ton of great schools and d great students doing all kinds of stuff. Um so yeah, you know, I went to school there, the hackathon scene there was amazing.
Um really fell in love with tech and and programming there. So
Is there a big NYU hackathon like like uh i in Stafford with like CalHacks and stuff?
Yeah. So there's um But tree hacks. Yeah, there's one that was put on by this was a while ago. But we're put on by uh NYU and Columbia. We do together hack and why.
How did Jed Borovik’s early career and the New York tech scene shape his path to AI coding?
Uh so there's there's uh there's a bunch of events kind of that that we did together. It would bring, you know, people across New York City, students across New York City and those are super fun. Yeah, so it'd be uh the Columbia one one time and then NYU the next and cycle back and forth. So yeah, a lot of cool stuff was made there.
Nice. Uh so you've been at Google for a while, nine years. Uh you worked on a bunch of things, including with Malta, which which is also another guest that I'm interviewing today. Uh how do you get into jewels? Like what's the what's the AI journey?
Yeah, so you know, it's gonna sound really cheesy, but I've told this story a couple of times to folks when they're like, Oh, how'd you end up, you know, doing this? Um, but it it is actually very true. So I worked on search for a long time, uh, and specifically kind of like news and freshness. Um, and then uh You know, when stable diffusion came out, that to me was the first like Gen AI mode. I know some people talk about like Chat GPT as like the first thing, but for me, Stable Diffusion, um, you know, it was a couple months before Chat GPT came out. It was a huge thing. And I was I was following it a ton online, and there were two groups of creators having reactions to it. You know, there was one group that was um, you know, this is stealing my art, this is stealing everything that's near and dear to me.
I hate this, this is ruining my life. And there Was another group of artists and creators who are like, Oh, this is a tool to create better art.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the overall focus of the episode and how does it start?
0:04–2:03
2
How did Jed Borovik’s early career and the New York tech scene shape his path to AI coding?
2:03–3:53
3
What motivated Jed to move from Google Search to building autonomous coding agents?
3:53–6:37
4
How does Google Labs collaborate with DeepMind to create the Jules coding agent?
6:37–9:46
5
What are Jules’ core capabilities and why is autonomy important for long‑running agents?
9:46–14:51
6
How has the agent scaffolding evolved as Gemini models improved?
14:51–15:55
7
Why is attention‑based search replacing RAG for code understanding?
15:55–37:01
8
What does the future of software engineering look like with AI agents?
37:01–43:42
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