LegalTechTalk 2026: The Rise of the Legal Tech Creator - Holly Cope - E04
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What is Legal Tech Talk and why is it important for the legal industry?
What happens when the brightest minds in legal, technology, and innovation come together to shape the future of our profession? Welcome to the Legally Speaking podcast Legal Tech Talk 2026 miniseries. As the UK's number one legal podcast and show ranked in the top 1% of podcasts globally, we're delighted to be returning as the official media partner for Legal Tech Talk for the third time. This event since the beginning, we've witnessed firsthand how it has become Europe's largest legal technology conference bringing together the people, ideas, and innovations transforming the legal industry. Across this special series, we'll be speaking with some of the world's leading legal professionals, founders, technologists, change makers to explore what's next for law.
Because our mission remains the same. Inspiring legal minds, transforming legal futures. Let's get into it. Hello everyone and welcome to the Legally Speaking podcast sponsored by Cleo recording live here at Legal Tech Talk 2026 in London. Joining me now is a dear friend and special guest, returning guest to the show. Please kindly introduce yourself, name, title and organisation and show.
Woohoo, I'm very excited to be here. Um my name is Holly Cope. I have a podcast called More Than a Lawyer, which Rob has been also a special guest on and his episode is absolutely epic. Um and
Just an okay there.
And I also do AI training and audits for legal teams and law firms. Um in addition, I've literally started that business like a month ago. Yeah. Um, FYI. But yeah, that's basically what I do.
And you've just been doing such great educational work in the world of the legal tech community for for so long now and ranked as number one and just yeah, just a great friend and great collaborator and doing amazing work in this space. Um this year's theme of legal tech talk has been a lot around transformation. So in your view, what has been the biggest shift in the legal industry right now that legal leaders can no longer afford to ignore?
Oh my
gosh. Rob, you
kill me every year, man. And you you're not sure.
You're at the forefront of this stuff, having the conversations and seeing it. So what what what what what shift are you seeing that you think people really need to pay attention to before it escapes them?
I think the interesting conversations that I've been having this year, which are different from the ones I was having last year. So last year it was a lot about okay what tools can we use, um, what can we adopt? And this year it's about what is our AI strategy gonna be. Right. And the interesting thing is I uh moderated a private round table, so it was like heads of legal for like huge companies and and innovation heads for large law firms and it was absolutely fascinating listening to them because they were saying That basically they can't think like three or five years a ahead. They can't even really think twelve months ahead because it's kind of tricky. The tools that they're using now are not necessarily the tools that they're gonna be using in two years' time.
Um so I think it's about it's about strategy and and thinking what is that strategy. And another thing that comes kind of under that is the return on investment. I think people are thinking more about what is the return on investment gonna be um in implementing that AI, whereas last year it was like What can we do? Um let's do it now, like let's work as fast as possible, but then now now they're like sitting back thinking, right, what is our ROI gonna be on this? And again part of the conversation that I moderated they were saying uh in actual facts we we cannot even quantify an ROI because um I think the key thing is that monetarily it's it's hard to it's hard to come up with because things are happening so rapidly and and fast and stuff.
Um so the their ROI all they can just look at is how many people are adopting, how many team members are actually applying this AI and that's our that's our return on investment for now but that it's not even really a metric i as such but anyway it's it's super interesting, this is what I'm hearing.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
What is Legal Tech Talk and why is it important for the legal industry?
0:00–6:09
2
Who is Holly Cope and what does her AI training and audit business do?
6:09–8:28
3
What is the biggest shift in legal tech that leaders can’t ignore this year?
8:28–10:38
4
How are law firms moving from tool adoption to an AI strategy and ROI focus?
10:38–11:54
Speakers
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