The Junior Work Is Going: Roch Glowacki on AI, Making Partner & Legal Careers Strategy - S10E20
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Why did Roch decide to pursue a partnership beyond status, ego, or money?
The junior walk is going. There's lots of people that go into the profession and say, I want the status, I want ego, I want money or whatever. And these are not, unfortunately, the right reasons. It's only when I joined Lewis Silken thinking this is potentially on the cards, but I wasn't entirely sure that I want to make money. And I really spent time thinking why. There are challenges with the EUSAI. I think that's where you get to the impact. For Lotham specifically, Obviously, this area has now become almost a standalone area of practice, right? I don't think two, three, four years ago, even when ChaiGPD came out, you would think it's so multidisciplinary that you end up needing to work with your employment colleagues, data protection colleagues, commercial teams, all in tandem.
That's where the real value is. On today's Legally Speaking podcast, I'm delighted to be joined by Rock Glavatsky. Rock is a partner in the digital commerce creative team at Lewis Silken. He specializes in AI, emerging technologies, software solutions, digital media, and e-commerce issues. Recognized as a key lawyer in the Legal 500, in AI, commercial contracts, and TMT, Rock is passionate about the evolving regulatory landscape of big data and AIs. So a very big warm welcome to the show, Rock. Thanks very much, Rob. I mean, I know we've spoken about this for a number of years now. So it's really and we've been observing each other's journey for a while. So I am. Yeah, I'm delighted to be here. Oh, it's an absolute pleasure to finally have you on the show. And yes, all good things come to those who wait. And you've had an incredible career up to date, which we're going to talk all about today. But before we do that, a couple of icebreaker questions. What's your favorite beverage and your preferred choice of footwear on a typical workday?
I'll have to go back to my Polish roots and promote Poland tangentially. So there's this cocktail that's called Apple Pie. And the reason why I think, well, one is super good because it's based, you have Zubrowka, which is famous Polish vodka with apple juice on ice and you put a bit of cinnamon on top of it. And a fun fact, I've introduced the DJ from Rudimental to this drink once. It's a long story. But anyway, and he posted about it on his Instagram. So that's a tiny little funny fun fact. But it's a really nice drink. I recommend the cocktail. Very simple to make and very lovely. Shoes. I am going to... reveal another bias i have as i reveal the polish bias if you know any if you have any dancer friends i love puma um suede shoes and that's because i used to dance in them all the time so i wear them a lot um and yeah uh dancers have a very particular about the shoes um so yeah that's probably my favorite one you'll see and you'll probably see me in the office in those as well
Two Ps, Polish booze and pumas. We're with you. I'm with you. Okay, that's fascinating. Thanks for sharing, but we must talk about you. So to begin with, Rock, would you mind telling our listeners a bit about your background and career journey? Yeah, so as I've sort of alluded to it, I came from Poland. I grew up in Poland. I did my international baccalaureate there and applied for universities abroad. And I got into King's College to study law with an exchange program in the Netherlands in Leiden. And during that exchange, I sort of was applying for all these different training contracts, got into Reed Smith, a U.S. firm, and I qualified there into an entertainment and media practice. And that's really where I think, you know, sort of the key milestones of my career started because I ended up doing quite a lot of secondment.
I was at Bauer Media, which to those sort of listening but not necessarily knowing the brand, it's a company, it's a group that owns Absolute, Radio Kiss, Magic, a bunch of magazines across Europe, Grazia Empire. So it's a very big media group. So I was there. I was at ITV, which is super fun. And then I ended up at Amazon Web Services, which really was the sort of
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
Why did Roch decide to pursue a partnership beyond status, ego, or money?
0:00–8:51
2
How did Roch’s early career moves shape his focus on AI and technology law?
8:51–23:51
3
What motivated Roch to join Lewis Silkin and how does the firm support AI work?
23:51–44:26
4
How did becoming a partner change Roch’s mindset from individual to team leadership?
44:26–1:06:49
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What are the three main challenges law firms face when adopting AI tools?
1:06:49–1:12:41
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