“Interview: What it’s like to be a bat” by Saul Munn

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For the purposes of this transcript, some high-pitched clicking sounds have been removed. The below is an otherwise unedited transcript of an interview between Dwarkesh Patel[1] and a bat. DWARKESH: Thanks for coming onto the podcast. It's great to have you— BAT: Thanks for having me. Yeah. DWARKESH: You can hear me okay? I mean, uh, all the equip— BAT: Yep, I can hear you. DWARKESH: Great, great. So— BAT: I can hear your voice, too. BAT: If that's what you were asking. DWARKESH: What? No, I was— BAT: Oh, “hear” probably isn’t the right word, I guess. “Sense”? No, it's not “see.” The translation suggestion thing isn’t right. BAT: I can [inaudible] you. It's still so weird to me how humans echolocate through your eyes. DWARKESH: Er, sorry, I was asking— BAT: Yeah, I can also hear your voice. DWARKESH: Uh, great. Okay. DWARKESH: So, the question we’ve all been waiting for, haha: what is it like to be a bat? BAT: Oh, sure. Yeah, that's been everyone's first question. I dunno, what's it like to be a human? Haha. BAT: No, but — I mean, it's not like I’ve ever felt your internal experience. How should I [...] The original text contained 1 footnote which was omitted from this narration. --- First published: December 1st, 2025 Source: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/P6BCRfusJefJw6Bei/interview-what-it-s-like-to-be-a-bat --- Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.

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