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"Backyard cat fight shows Schelling points preexist language" by jchan

16 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What situation do the cats face in the backyard?

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Backyard Cat Fight Shows Shelling Points Pre-Exist Language By Jakhan Published on January 14, 2026 Two cats fighting for control over my backyard appear to have settled on a particular chain-link fence as the delineation between their territories. This suggests that 1. Animals are capable of recognising shelling points. 2.

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Therefore, shelling points do not depend on language for their shelling nests. 3. Therefore, tacit bargaining should be understood not as a special case of bargaining where communication happens to be restricted, but rather as the norm from which the exceptional case of explicit bargaining is derived. Heading Summary of Cat's Situation

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I don't have any pets, so my backyard is terra nullius according to cat law. This situation is unstable, as there are several outdoor cats in the neighborhood who would like to claim it.

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Chapter 2: Why is the chain-link fence significant for the cats?

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Our two contenders are Tabby Cat, who lives on the other side of the waist-high chain-link fence marking the back edge of my lot, and Tuxedo Cat, who lives in the place next door to me. There's a code block here in the text. In the first incident, I found the two cats fighting in various locations around my yard.

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Eventually Tuxedo emerged victorious, and Tabby fled back over the fence into his own yard. Tuxedo looks to be younger and more robust than the comparatively elderly and scrawny Tabby, so this outcome was not surprising.

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In the second incident, Tabby and Tuxedo had a stare down through the fence, where they spent almost an hour meowing loudly at each other and refusing to budge from their respective seats, Tabby at A, and Tuxedo at B, a few inches apart, with the fence in between.

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This appeared to be a symbolic extension of the physical fight from earlier, whichever cat were to retreat first would be taken to concede the territory on the other side of the fence. That is, if Tabby retreats from A while Tuxedo is still at B, then this means Tabby will no longer enter my yard.

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And if Tuxedo retreats from B while Tabby is still at A, then Tuxedo will not attempt to take the fight into Tabby's yard. Scratching is a continuation of meowing by other means.

Chapter 3: What are Schelling points and how do they apply to animals?

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Von Clausewitz. End quote. Because Tuxedo had already established a provisional claim to my yard in the first incident, this seemed more plausible than the other possible interpretation of the stare down, that is that the retreating cat would be conceding the territory on the same side of the fence. As it so happened, Tuxedo backed down first.

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This surprised me, I was expecting Tabby to retreat, because Tuxedo had already proven that he could win in a fight if it came to that. However, I had not accounted for the home field advantage, or conversely the importance of leaving your enemy a way out. I now realise that this confrontation had much higher stakes for Tabby than for Tuxedo.

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Tabby will fight more desperately in his own yard than either cat did in my yard, because if he can't even defend his own yard, he'll have nowhere else to go. Therefore, in a fight over Tabby's yard, Tuxedo is likely to take considerable damage even if he does ultimately prevail, and the risk isn't worth the reward.

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And it seems that both cats figured this out by meowing at each other for an hour.

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Chapter 4: How does tacit bargaining differ from explicit bargaining?

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Leave your enemy a litter box to piss in. Sunbeam too. End quote. Heading. Why the fence?

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The settlement seems to have held, and since the second incident I have not seen either cat venturing onto the wrong side of the fence. What's funny about this is that the chain-link fence is a more or less arbitrary line, again, it's only about three feet tall, and any cat can easily see through it or climb over it.

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but it's clear that the fence is the only plausible shelling point in the contested area, and so it sticks. Dividing the territory along any other line would be impermissible in cat law. Heading.

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Chapter 5: What can we learn from the cats' territorial disputes?

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If animals have shelling points, then. This implies that negotiation is conceptually prior to language. When Thomas Schelling introduces the topic in The Strategy of Conflict, Chapter 3, pages 67-9, he explains why the study of tacit bargaining, exemplified in seemingly artificial scenarios where the parties are prevented from communicating with each other, is relevant to the real world.

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The concept of coordination that has been developed here for tacit bargaining does not seem directly applicable to explicit bargaining. There is no apparent need for intuitive rapport when speech can be used, yet there is abundant evidence that some such influence is powerfully present even in explicit bargaining.

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The obvious place to compromise frequently seems to win by some kind of default, as if there were simply no rationale for settling anywhere else. End quote. But now it seems that Schelling doth protest too much, in fact, tacit bargaining ought not to be understood as a special edge case which is relevant only insofar as it approximates the more general case of explicit, verbal, negotiation.

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Quite the contrary. Quote.

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Chapter 6: How do the outcomes of cat fights illustrate negotiation principles?

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Quote.

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One has to have a reason for digging one's claws in somewhere. At least, if not here, where? Tortoise shelling. End quote.

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This article was narrated by Type 3 Audio for Less Wrong. It was published on January 14, 2026.

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