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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Every Origin series, there's always one bloke in the group chat. Yep, the nah boys can't make it tonight guy. Jim Beam reckons every group's got a flake. Suddenly he's got work early. Mate, state of origin. Nobody's sleeping properly tomorrow anyway. Exactly. You can't call yourself a rugby league fan and miss origin night with the boys.
That's why Jim Beam's on a mission to end flaky mate behaviour this footy season. Simple rule, grab your mate, get him off the couch and get him to the footy with us, Jim Beam. Because footy's best enjoyed together. Simple rule, grab your mate, get him off the couch and get him to the footy with a gym beam. Because footy's best enjoyed together. Especially Origin.
Nobody wants to watch that alone like a psychopath. Head over to atgymbeam.au and call out your flaky mate. We're joined by the Triple O G with Macy's and the Bro Loops though. There might be a little scoundrel that's just floating around in the... If I'm looking somewhere else. If Macy's distracted, it's because little Lenny's here with me, her little brother. So Lenny started it.
She brought something home from daycare. So she was sick at the start of last week. Then it got passed on to- Hold my bottle. To Brooksy. I'm good. Yeah, Brooksy's been hammered for about three or four days, poor boy. And, you know, just like seven weeks old, just doesn't know how to deal with it. And therefore, Kai is rattled. So Lenny's with us today.
She'll just be floating around in the background there, but she'll be fine. She's got Netflix for a bit. We might have a break and go get a little ham and cheese croissant later on. How was your weekend, mate? It was pretty- It was relaxing, but it was intense, right? Because- Went up to my brother up at Eagleton, see him. And his boy's playing this competition, which is not a normal comp.
It's called TFW. So it's like a sort of a rep team brought together. A lot of Sydney teams come up. Was it Toronto again? Yep. Still haven't changed his name. Still Keith Barry. Still no statue. So I went to Toronto two days in a row, like two mornings, like Sunday and Monday. If you're from Toronto – How do we go about getting a mace statues? Statues, statues. Just a grandstand.
The modern league grandstand. Do they have a canteen there?
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Chapter 2: What personal experiences are shared about family and rugby?
Yep. None of that. Would you be happy with the Willie Mason canteen? I don't want anything at the moment. Yes, you do. Let's get something. Let's get something going. Name a cup after me. You're too big of a player to like not have something associated with that club. You go through Toronto West. I rolled through Toronto West, right, where I was brought up with Archer. Yeah. And I show him.
I said, that's where daddy used to live. That's where daddy used to go to school. And he goes, this is like, he's at age where he sort of knows. Half picking it up. I said, it's not nice, is it, where we live, where you live, right? Yeah. And he goes, no, it's not. And I said, so daddy grew up right here. Got out of the car and everything like that.
You've never explained to me, like, how rough is Toronto? It's Toronto West. It's not Toronto. Yeah. It's totally different. Like, you go to Toronto. If I take you to Toronto, you go, this is a nice little town. Yeah. On the water, like lakeside. Beautiful. Because I've drove past Toronto a couple of times. Oh, you love it. But we go have coffee in that, like, yesterday morning. It was so good.
It's beautiful. And even since the 90s has changed, you would actually live in Toronto. But the Toronto West is the commission house side. Gotcha. Which is like a real line in the sand, right? This is where I got confused as a youngster where I'm like, we all grew up in commission houses and like we all thought that this was all the normal same shit.
Like, you know, in Sydney, in the eastern suburbs, you've got a fucking Maroubra $10 million house in South Coogee and then you've got houses commissioned across the road in units. We didn't have units. They're just normal shit fucking houses, right? And all our mates lived there. We just thought it was normal until we got to high school, right?
And then you go to your mate's house who lives on the water and you're like –
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Chapter 3: How does the conversation shift to player performance and team dynamics?
fuck, what's the deal here? I had a couple of mates that had some decent cash, their parents, right? Like living on the water, so I should go in there, jet skis and all that bogey shit all the time. What the fuck? We got nothing. Because then you start realising. It's just it hasn't changed one bit since I left in 97. I bought my own house in 2000, 2001, but it is just –
Housing Commission at its lowest.
Yeah.
Just a lot of drugs there. Yeah, it's a fucking low joint. They haven't put anything into it. A lot of money in Toronto, but not Toronto West. So I just wanted to drive through the streets. This is exactly the same as it was fucking 30 years ago. Yeah. 40 years ago. It is what it is. It makes you who you are, right? Yeah. Those kids are just like you. They wouldn't know any different.
You don't know. You get to high school and you're like, fuck, old mate lives over at Cold Point, which is a real snobby sort of area, which is a big difference. Yeah. Helps you appreciate the grind more? 100%. I drive through there every time I go to Toronto. The only connection I do have there, have with Toronto, is that my dad's buried there. Otherwise, I wouldn't have any connection there.
Do you have – have you been out to Mount Druitt and stuff? Yeah, it's like that. It's like that. Is it similar to parts of Mount Druitt? Yeah, those houses. It's like that. So if you can picture that. We'll grow up just around the corner. Yeah, that's what I mean. You know what it looks like. That's what Toronto West looks like. Gotcha, gotcha.
So I'm just driving down there with Archie and she's like, oh, this is – I said, yeah, this is where Dad grew up and your uncle, like everyone. In saying that, there are places out in Western Sydney now like that are – Toronto West, you can see some houses getting built there. Is this common? I'll ask you this question because like St. Clair, so I grew up in St.
Clair, Esken Park, which was when I was growing up, a nice area. Dad could afford through footy. And then we had just over the bridge, over the M4, you had Mount Druitt, Collerton, a few of these, a little bit rougher when you cross over the bridge.
But with the property boom, like so many of those places over on some of those streets, like it might have been considered a rough area back in the day, but now they've knocked down and rebuilt and some beautiful houses there. Is there anything like that happening in Toronto West? I can see it. Toronto, you've got $4 million, $5 million houses, more on the lake there. Yeah.
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Chapter 4: What insights are provided about the New South Wales team selection?
Yeah, rip an Oz tag off. Like, you're not teaching them how to tackle. So by the time they get to, like, just say nines, tens, elevens, when I think they adjust the rules, they get fucking pumped. Because I'm telling you, kids take this sport serious and their parents take it serious, right? And I'm like – because they can see an end goal. Like, you can see –
just say a critter who's a Mount Druid boy, right? They'd be looking at him, like just say, million dollar contracts, man. You could change the whole- For sure. The whole fabric of the family and everything like it. I'm just like, fuck, I see a lot of families up there. They're drilling their kids. Eight nines. That's always been around. I know.
I fucking was one of those kids that got fucking hammered. So I got PTSD about just fuck off, man. You can spot it. I see it and I just go, oh, God damn it. I hate it because my dad was one of those fuckers on the sideline. Who was screaming. So I'm totally opposite of my dad. Just sit there and watch. I've still got my little nephews there. Les is coach. These big gorillas on the sideline, mate.
Yeah. And coaches, the other coaches are pretty. Oh, yeah. Don't try and intense this man. It's like a comedy. And last couple of years I've been on the sideline, right? And you can't have two big gorillas like that just walking along. Too intense. Too intimidating. I'm not. It just don't look good. I said, Les, I'm not going to be on the sideline.
You should have gone and jumped on the opposition bench just to like even it out a little bit. They're next to each other. Do you know what I mean? Like, you know, I just sit back and a lot of L1s up there. Yeah. The day ones, but it was good because like, you know, when –
Like I'd love to sit there and have a chat with them about everything, but their kids are there and they're there with their family and they're from Sydney, they're from everywhere. So it was all good. It was all love. It was played in a really good like spirit. Because there's different people picking.
So just say Les' team is Morpeth Bulls, right, and you're playing against the Newcastle Immortals. Saw Gags, Gags' boy was playing up there. Oh, awesome. Yeah, so I had a fucking good chat with Gags. I love Gags. Shout out to Gags. I know his jerseys he's getting anyway. Yeah, we got it confirmed.
Yeah.
No, I know what jersey he's going for actually. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to say anything. But he – yeah, I think he's – He's going for the – pretty much everyone can pick it anyway. He's going for like guys that he's played with, who's going to be legendary game. Well, yeah, yeah. Go the guys that we're pretty much on anyway. Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What are the key takeaways from the QLD team reaction?
Play the ball. One, play the ball. Yeah. End it so we don't have any more dramas in a grand final so we don't put you guys under this much pressure. Yeah. That's how it is. The refs are the ones that are getting pumped because they're going by the letter of the law. Mm-hmm. And I'm like that. I mean, the no try to the Cossie guy was like, yeah, that sucks because they went up a try. Be better.
Put it as like you didn't know it was a try. You couldn't say for certain that he didn't ground it. Just go up and say, I don't know. I think it's a no try. I don't know whether he grounded a no because there's sufficient evidence there that they didn't obviously ground it. Well, no. Whatever the referee makes the decision on, I think everyone was happy with. It'd gone up a try.
There seemed to be grey area. More – The consensus would be try. So just leave it a try. But I was saying, like, just say if he had a win up and said, let's have a look at that, just have a look at the grounding. I'm saying no try. Just to save his ass. So we're not going up a try. Yeah. No? Yeah, no, no. You don't want that from a ref? But then it goes back up to –
Then it becomes a judgment. Remember we used to go back to the referee? Yeah, and then it's just too much. Yeah, okay. What about the sticky spray part of that? Yeah. That was weird. Yeah. The sticky spray. There's been a couple. It happened to me in 2002 or one, I think. So I never used it. Did you use it, Mace? I only used it once.
So Matty Johns, right, he used to – so you know your arm strapping, right, on your wrist?
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Chapter 6: What fan questions are addressed in this segment?
Yeah, the wrist strapping. You used to put it on the other way. Ah, yeah. Because you should carry the ball out. And I did it one time and I went to play the ball and it got stuck on the ball and it just like – Did Matty used to do that too?
Chapter 7: How do the Sharks and Dragons influence the upcoming games?
Matty used to do that, yeah. How was the potty with him too? It was awesome. It was an awesome potty. It was just going through like just all footy and funny stuff, mate. It was a bit nostalgic. It was great. The Red Dragons. Yeah, he just brought up some stuff because he's been retired since my career sort of took off 2003, 2004. I played against him – when did he retire? 2001?
You played against the Sharks, didn't you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And played against the Knights and stuff like that. So I've always had a great relationship with the Johns brothers. So it was just good sitting there talking to him and talking to his son. Two boys there that I've known since they were born. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, it was pretty cool.
Let's get back to the footy. Yeah, the grip. The grip, yeah.
Chapter 8: What insights are shared about the performance of the Titans and Broncos?
So I never used the sticky thing on your hands, but I'd use that. Was it around when you played? Yeah. Can you remember it? Yeah, it's just resin. Yeah. It's been around for years. I hate it because once you put your hand on the ground, you get the grass. Then you get no grip. Did you hate this as well? I want to ask you this question.
Sometimes you'd go shake someone's hand and you'd go, oh, fuck, how much you got on? Paul Gallen's hand after the game. Gallen was massive on it and I think Chucky Watt now. Not after the game, teammates before the game. You shake their hand and then you go, oh, bro, you've got it all in my fucking hand. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, get away, give me a fucking fist pump.
Yeah, it was like that because you don't want it on your hands. No, I didn't like it. Gutho used to bathe in it, it looked like. Yeah, but Gutho's always doing it. So you like that. And he used to, you must have like a spot here where you put it. Is that the top up spot?
So fullbacks will get, and just say, because you're getting trained now to not have the ball when you're catching the ball unless you tuck it like that. Get it in your hands like that. out in front, you can tuck it and then that's where you're pushing it against your jersey and you want that sticky stuff. So I put it on my jersey. That's about it.
So they have all these on the playing jersey, all these sort of silicon sort of, you know, you can put stuff on this jersey. So that's for the spray and everything like that. For as silly as this sounds, because I actually – because I'm a mad sweater, you know how much I sweat, right? Yeah.
It actually felt like – I remember putting it on once or twice and it felt like it had the opposite effect because I was sweating so much. Like it just – it become – like it felt like a different texture with the amount of sweat that I had. I would put it on because I used to strap my forearm wrists in that here Put it on there, not on the hands.
Because of the simple fact, like when you put your hand, that's why they keep reapplying it, right? So once it hits the grass, grass all over it. Over the grass. Over the grass. Over the grass. So you end up with that much shit on it. And you're trying to scrub it off. And after it, it's WD-40. You see the blokes just in the shower just like for ages. Really? Oh, mate.
It doesn't just come off like that. WD-40 just sitting there just scraping it off. It's fucking awful. I was thinking about Hamoli over the weekend. Let's get to this point because I think this is important because you talked about it.
The badge of honour that it used to be to play after Origin, I think because Foz is so recently removed and knowing the demands on the current players right now, it was the correct decision to rest Hamoli last week. I didn't – I knew why that he was – I think he took it out of Hamoli's hands. Yes. He didn't. That's what I say. You have to do this to these players.
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