#344 – Noam Brown: AI vs Humans in Poker and Games of Strategic Negotiation

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What is the significance of No Limit Texas Hold'em in AI research?

Lex Fridman 0:00
The following is a conversation with Noah Brown, research scientist at FAIR, Facebook AI research group at Meta AI. He co-created the first AI system that achieved superhuman level performance in No Limit Texas Hold'em, both heads up and multiplayer. And now, recently, he co-created an AI system that can strategically out-negotiate humans using natural language in a popular board game called Diplomacy, which is a war game that emphasizes negotiation. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast. We got True Classic Tees for shirts, Audible for audiobooks, Insight Tracker for bio-monitoring, and ExpressVPN for ISP privacy.
Lex Fridman 0:48
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Lex Fridman 1:44
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Lex Fridman 2:39
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