#366 – Shannon Curry: Johnny Depp & Amber Heard Trial, Marriage, Dating & Love
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The following is a conversation with Shannon Curry, a clinical and forensic psychologist who conducts research, therapy, and psychological evaluations pertaining to trauma, violence, and relationships. She received worldwide attention in April of last year by giving a lengthy televised testimony on her psychological evaluation of Amber Heard during the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard trial. I found her testimony to be an eloquent description of complex psychological concepts and evaluation procedures. So I reached out for a chat. In person, she was brilliant, funny, thoughtful, and truly kind.
What insights does Shannon Curry provide on starting a relationship?
I really, really enjoyed this conversation. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast.
How can couples therapy improve relationships?
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What are the common reasons relationships fail?
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How does drama impact relationships?
For the keto stuff, I keep the carbs low. It's really, really delicious. And the variety it provides makes it so that I don't have to think about anything and I can enjoy, at an affordable price, deliciousness in my life that's varied throughout the week and I still keep to a low carb count. This is probably the most efficient, the most delicious, the most affordable way to have variety of foods on a keto diet and all kinds of other sort of quote unquote smart diets that they have. Protein plus whatever, vegan plus veggie, all that kind of stuff.
What factors contribute to success in relationships?
Get Factor and enjoy clean eating without the hassle. Go to factormeals.com slash Lex50 and use code Lex50 to get 50% off your first box. That's factormeals.com slash Lex50 and use code Lex50. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp, spelled H-E-L-P, help. Obviously, this is a good episode for BetterHelp to sponsor because Shannon is a great psychologist. I learned a lot from her testimony, from our on and off the mic conversations, from her interviews. She's so eloquent and clear in explaining some pretty complicated psychological concepts because there's a lot of gray area in how you identify the different disorders, the different things that might be right and wrong with our minds and exploring that area, all the gray areas within that with clarity that the terms aid in understanding versus limit you by putting you into a particular kind of bucket and exploring all that kind of stuff, especially in the context of relationships is brilliant.
She, of course, does all kinds of therapy and reviews both for PTSD, for couples therapy, all that kind of stuff. And it just shows that lifelong taking seriously your mental health with partners, your mental health alone is really important through the act of talking it out with licensed professionals. And that's what BetterHelp provides and makes super easy. Check them out at betterhelp.com slash Lex and save on your first month. That's betterhelp.com slash Lex. This show is also brought to you by House of Macadamias, a company that ships delicious, high-quality and healthy macadamia nuts and macadamia nut-based snacks directly to your door.
What role does sex play in maintaining a healthy relationship?
Small portions, healthy, delicious. I don't just eat them myself.
What are the psychological dynamics behind infidelity?
I also share it with guests, with friends when they come over. I think it serves as a good icebreaker.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:39
2
What insights does Shannon Curry provide on starting a relationship?
0:39–0:49
3
How can couples therapy improve relationships?
0:49–1:16
4
What are the common reasons relationships fail?
1:16–1:52
5
How does drama impact relationships?
1:52–2:27
6
What factors contribute to success in relationships?
2:27–4:10
7
What role does sex play in maintaining a healthy relationship?
4:10–4:17
8
What are the psychological dynamics behind infidelity?
4:17–1:50:47
Speakers
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