#455 – Adam Frank: Alien Civilizations and the Search for Extraterrestrial Life

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Lex Fridman 0:00
The following is a conversation with Adam Frank, an astrophysicist interested in the evolution of star systems and the search for alien civilizations in our universe. And now a quick few second mention of each sponsor. Check them out in the description. It's the best way to support this podcast. Let me say as a side note that I had to put a bunch of podcast episodes on hold to focus deeply on preparing for conversations with world leaders. So I apologize to include more sponsors on this episode than usual. They really wanted me to mention them this year, and I'm not sure when I'm going to do another episode. We were going to do eight episodes this month, but instead I think we're doing two. We'll see. Every single day, every single hour changes the plan, changes the situation, changes my life. So please be patient with me. There are no sponsor reads in the middle, so you can skip this long and beautiful list. But I do try to make them interesting in case you do listen, and I hope you do.
Lex Fridman 1:06
In either case, please still check out the sponsors. Buy their stuff. It is the best way to support this podcast. The sponsors are Uncord for your ML stack, Eight Sleep for naps, Shopify for e-commerce, NetSuite for business, BetterHelp for the mind, Notion for notes, Element for electrolytes, and AG1 for nutrition. If you want to get in touch with me for whatever reason, go to lexfreeman.com contact. Perhaps you could tell from my voice, on top of everything else, I'm also sick. What a wonderful, beautiful, challenging life this is, and I'm grateful for every second of it. All right, and now on to the full arteries. Let's go. This episode is brought to you by Encord, a platform that provides data-focused AI tooling for data annotation, curation, and management, and for model evaluation. For example, if you are an independent private or government agency that is running
Lex Fridman 2:07
the drones that is flying all over New Jersey and the tri-state area, you might be doing the same kind of data annotation and collection, curation and management that Encore excels at. Also, if you're an extraterrestrial species performing the same, I wonder what kind of computation tools alien civilizations have. At the physics level, computation is fundamentally a part of the fabric of the universe. So every advanced civilization would or surely would discover how to leverage that computation, how to organize that computation, how to access and communicate with that computation. Anyway, think of it, if you have a swarm of drones and you are the ruler of an alien civilization and want to collect some data about New Jersey, you are going to have to do some great machine learning. And great machine learning is not just about the algorithms. It is so much more about the data.
Lex Fridman 3:09
So whoever you are running the drone program over New Jersey, go try out Encore to curate, annotate, and manage your AI data at Encore.com. That's Encore.com. By the way, in all seriousness, I will probably talk about drones in New Jersey soon. I think it's a fascinating mystery. Is it China? Is it aliens? Is it the U.S. government? Is it private companies within the U.S. government? Is it other nation states? Are nuclear weapons involved? And what are the mechanisms that ensure that the U.S. government is transparent about communicating what they discover? These are essential questions. Okay, on to A-Sleep. This episode is brought to you by A-Sleep and it's pod 4 ultra. You know, sleep makes me think about the night. And I've been watching a lot of war movies.
Lex Fridman 4:02
I've been watching a lot of war reporting. I've been watching a lot of conversations with soldiers and I've been talking to soldiers. And there's something about the night. There's something about the quiet night that serves as the break from the hell of war. That's a song from the Second World War. A song about a soldier writing to a woman he loves. That's just it. Just like a man's search for meaning in the darkest hours of war. Those are the things that keep the flame of the heart going. Talking about these topics makes it difficult for me to then talk about eight sleep and the technology and the comfort of good night's sleep Somewhere in America.

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