In this podcast George Monbiot and John Lanchester discuss Monbiot’s latest book 'How Did We Get into this Mess?' (Verso) and assess the state we are now in: the devastation of the natural world, the crisis of inequality, the corporate takeover of nature, our obsessions with growth and profit and the decline of the political debate over what to do. One of the most vocal and eloquent critics of the current consensus, Monbiot makes a persuasive case for change in our everyday lives, our politics and economics, the ways we treat each other and the natural world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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