Chapter 1: What does it mean to be part of a new women's major league baseball?
Hey y'all, welcome back to Made It Out. Today I am here with Stephanie Everett. I am so fucking excited. I cold DM Stephanie. Sure did. She's on the baseball team, the women's pro baseball team, which is brand new. Every time I tell people that I'm like, yeah, I'm going to have a pro baseball player on there. Like what? I didn't even know that existed. I'm like, exactly why I'm having her on.
Very new, very fresh. Yes. Also an actor. Also an actor. Very high school musical. We were offlining about this. Very Troy Bolton. Yes.
Yes.
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So I started playing sports like many other kids at four, doing like a different sport every season along with my older brother. And so he played soccer. He played baseball. I played soccer. I played baseball. Was it just y'all two? It was just us two. Okay. Yeah. So lots of carpools, lots of teammates, a lot of parental effort. in getting us to all our different activities.
But baseball and soccer were the two that I really fell in love with and really pursued for then the next 15 years. And I always knew I wanted to... Play baseball like for a long long time It was like my intro question every year in elementary school and into middle schools like what do you want to be when you grow up?
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Chapter 2: How did Stephanie Everett start her journey in baseball?
So post-banning, the men were going off to war. All the baseball players were getting drafted. The men were losing money. And so they said, well, can women play? And it wasn't like we believe that women are good at this sport. It was we need to keep making money. And so we're not going to let them play like just as themselves. We're going to put them in skirts.
we're gonna put them in makeup we're gonna give them etiquette classes we're gonna objectify them yeah we're gonna objectify them make you come watch them play so hard but still believe like like they could come home and make you dinner like that was the vibe of the league and like queerness was not okay of course oh my god there's like this story that rosie o'donnell tells from the original filming that like she played this one scene this one way and the director was like not as gay please
please. And so that league folded when the men then came back from war and the investment wasn't there. They were like, we're good. Thank you. Starting something new isn't just hard. It's actually terrifying. There's so much work that goes into this thing that you're not entirely sure will even work out. and can be hard to make the leap of faith.
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Hey, everybody. My name is Bob the Drag Queen. And I'm Monet X Change. And we are the hosts of Sibling Rivalry. This is a podcast where two best friends gab, talk, smack, and have a lot of fun with our black queer selves. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, we are family. So we talk about everything, honey, from why we don't like hugs to Black Lives Matter to interracial dating to other things.
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Chapter 3: What are the differences between baseball and softball?
The league folds. And it's not until like the 90s. There were a couple of women's teams that would play matches against like minor league men's teams. Okay. And so there's like this whole generation of they're now coaches in the USA system who got to play professionally. So cool. But there wasn't like this true investment in a league. Right. And like four women by women playing women. Wow. Okay.
This is so cool. History lesson. I love it. There's so many directions I could go here. First of all, what you were saying before, like how you said, I'm going to be this. I know. Isn't that crazy? Honestly, it's the same thing my brother did. Really? I'm going to... He used to go to school and say, like, I'm going to be a professional baseball player. And the teacher would, like, kind of laugh.
No, literally. Like, he would have an experience of, like... I mean, can you imagine mine? That's what I'm thinking. I'm like... I like her grading that paper. Like, please. He made sense. This was, like... This was, like, okay, girl. And it's so fucking cool. And I think, like, there is a lot that comes, and you kind of mentioned it and touched on it earlier. Like, it is a family effort to get...
any professional athlete to be a professional athlete. And I think being a sibling of that, that's a very specific experience. I was going to say, like... So I... I know you're on that sideline. And I'm his biggest fan. It's a very specific experience and it's a very specific mindset.
And now I look at it and I'm so grateful to have grown up alongside it because it's like this tenacity and this like belief in yourself that is so unwavering and it's such a cool experience.
it is it's delusional but it's like so yes it is so fucking cool so i admire it i think it's so amazing i also when you mention the minors i want to give people an understanding because baseball is so unique in the fact that like if you play football and you're drafted to play football you play football you are a pro football player you know like that's what it is
If you play baseball, you go and you play in the minor league, which like you are one of thousands and thousands and thousands in these basically like they call it the farm system. Like literally, literally, it's fucking nuts. So which is like what the what the women's games has been thus far is like literally called barnstorming. Like you.
roll into town you play a game an exhibition game make some money move on and that's it yeah like wow it's like to to this point um there's been a lot more development with youth baseball um which is incredible and unfortunately wasn't around when I was a youth but now like there are a couple of tournaments one in Virginia one in Florida and it's like the teams assemble yep we play and
Go back to our lives. Yeah, but it's developing. It's developing for sure. Because in the youth boys world, it's like you play all year round. These kids, winter, summer, fall, there's all these different leagues that they play in. So what were you doing when were you like playing with the boys teams? Yeah. I got to play with the same sort of set of boys up until middle school. Okay.
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Chapter 4: What historical challenges have women faced in baseball?
But it's starting to be that sort of like you're stepping off the bus and it's like, yo, is that a girl? Yo, that's a girl. Yo, what's going on? Yo, you. yo, they got a girl. And there are announcers who are saying, like, now up to bat, Steven Everett, because they think my name's a typo. Like, wait. And so just all those little things just started, like, digging away, digging away.
My senior year, I was a captain on my team. And so I got to play in the All-Star game at National Stadium. Ah! For me, a girl who knows that, like, this is the end of the road for me at this point in time. I'm like, this is... sickening. I'm going to have the most fun of my entire life. I'm playing against the other captains were put on the other team as me.
And I get this, this moment where I am playing against my teammates who've been there for me. I'm facing a guy on my team. He's pitching to me and he strikes me out. And I just like laugh because it was him and the catcher were my teammates. And I was like, ah, you got me guys. I get into the dugout and a coach is who's not from my school is like, what the fuck are you smiling about?
Why are you smiling? You just struck out. And I was like, time to hang up the cleats. And that was like my last experience with baseball.
Yeah.
And so but in terms of like finding my identity through that, like I really think playing baseball was such a formative experience. aspect of like the resilience that I have, the ability to like overcome, you know, any adversity that comes my way is definitely from being in these spaces where I couldn't fully be myself, but still had to perform at a high level. Yeah.
I mean, in terms of my queerness, like the journey for me started in high school. Yeah. It was a very slow journey. All right. I'm here. I'm comfy over here. I'm like... By senior year, I'm finally, finally, finally, I'm kissing a girl. Yes. I'm kissing a girl. And she does not want it to be known. Okay. And so I'm kissing a girl in secret. Okay. It's a step in the right direction.
It's like very dramatic. We're both doing theater together because I was doing theater.
Of course. Yeah, yeah.
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Chapter 5: How has the women's baseball league evolved over time?
quite a few okay this is interesting yeah that's really confusing yeah because now like i'm in this environment where i now am allowed in the locker room again because all women and like everybody's naked all the time everybody's looking around everybody and i'm just like so uncomfortable like you literally like comments are made if i like just shave my legs i'm like let's stop thinking about my body let's stop let's stop let's stop i'm not thinking about you
Don't have a crush on any of y'all. Yeah. Relax. It's not like that. Yeah, it's not like that at all. And, like, I don't think they did it, like, knowingly, but I just knew that, like, the soccer team at the time was pretty high femme. Okay. Pretty rich. Pretty, like, we talked to the hockey boys and the football boys. Yeah. And, like, that's what we do. Yep.
And, like, I attribute that to me wearing a full face of makeup every day freshman year. Like, the memories pop up on the phone, and I'm like, oh, okay. Oh my God, isn't that wild? Haters.
And I think that's why I had such a hard time accepting my queerness because I was like, I'm supposed to be on this track, going to these sororities, going to these frats, going to these parties, doing these things. We're only ever talking about boys we've hooked up with in the locker room. And so like, I'm competitive, I'm getting in on it. Like I'm kissing boys and I'm kissing girls.
on the rugby team, but I'm definitely like finding friends on the rugby team that I was like, Whoa. Yeah. That's so fun. I can be this and it's okay. And I'm accepted here. A hundred percent. Wow. A hundred percent. And so I, yeah, I definitely, I kissed boys for probably two, too many years. Yeah. Okay. You had a career. I did. Four of my ex-boyfriends are gay. Isn't that crazy?
That's a great track record. God, that should be my fun fact. Absolutely. I had to give one recently. That is yours. With the right crowd. That's the fun fact. With all crowds. That's the fun fact. Four of my ex-boyfriends are gay. That is so fun. None of us wanted to see the writing on the wall. No. You were all just holding each other through the blindness.
Okay, so it must feel so amazing coming back to it's like you're having this full circle moment where like now you're coming back to this sport you love and it's I'm sure gay as fuck. It is more gay than it's not. Okay, so tell me how did this all happen? Because like I said at the top, not a lot of people know that this is going on yet, I don't think. No, no.
So I had to medically retire from soccer as a sophomore. Okay. I got a couple of really bad concussions that weren't even that bad, but just never went away. I left. I took some time off from school to try to recover. And when I came back, I was like, okay. Let me take an acting class for fun. Okay. And that's how that happened. Now you become the lead in the play. I know the end of this story.
I switched my major senior fall. I hate you. And now I'm a theater major. You are all the same. All you athletes. I fucking hate y'all. That's how we do. Are you also a baby of the family? I am. I can't fucking stand you. Get out of my studio.
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Chapter 6: What role does mental health play in sports for athletes?
Absolutely. To more. Yeah. And I think like what you're saying is so important and something I've thought about with my brother. So it's like especially like now in the college space, the NIL deals like you're telling me an 18 year old is not going to struggle mentally breaking his ankle when he's making five million dollars to be there.
yep please now it's directly tied to your please I don't care how many cortisone shots you want to throw on that ankle someone talk to the boy talk to the boy talk to him yeah so I think I think we're gonna see a huge uptick in mental performance coaches and sports psychologists like
kind of taking over that world that makes me so happy i'm me too so like happy for you yeah let's be part of it right away yes and i'm grateful you came to talk to me i have one more question yeah yeah i ask everybody that's on the show this i want to know what are you working on in therapy Tell me. Girl, what are we not working on? Seriously. Kind of parallel to this grad school journey.
Obviously, going from zero to 100 after 10 years led to a lot of injuries. Yeah. And so my therapist and I have been working specifically on the injuries, but also just in life on acceptance. That is my word of the year. It is the year of acceptance. It is the year of knowing that bad things will happen. Bad thoughts will occur.
Negative emotions will be here, but, you know, we're going to work on acknowledging that they're all temporary. A lot of them are fixable, which, God, I'm not supposed to be talking about fixing. Oh, my God. I'm nervous. Oh, no. Don't yell at me. We're not trying to fix things.
We're just trying to allow.
We're accepting. We're accepting. We're allowing things to.
to happen I'm really trying to live by the phrase that I always like think of that everything happens for a reason like I really really really really believe that I don't always live it and I think acceptance is a huge part of that I'm starting to meditate I'm on day eight I was literally going to ask you day eight how you feel is it hard it's so hard it's yeah yeah
I have a touch of ADHD, so it's, you know. Yeah. I'm working on it to accept what is going on within me and outside of us.
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