Progress Over Perfection: The Future of Horse Training ft. Gaia Resmini
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Who is Gaia Resmini and what is her background in rewards‑based horse training?
Hi everyone and welcome back to the Making Milestones podcast. Today we have another special guest who has been on the podcast before and I'm very excited to have another conversation with her. And the guest today is Gaia Resmini, who is in Sweden and is a rewards-based trainer over there. We had an awesome discussion last time she was on the podcast. Highly recommend checking it out. Today, we're going to have another discussion on rewards-based training, along with some of the recent events in the horse world, such as the British bridalist competition and the response to that. And also a very important discussion of progress over perfection and the purity culture that we sometimes see in the rewards-based world.
So I'll turn it over to Gaia to introduce herself a little bit more detailed, and then we'll jump right into the discussion. discussion.
Hello, I'm so happy to be here again. I'm so happy that you want to be here and I love having conversations with you, so I'm just super excited about talking to you again. And honestly, I do not remember what I was doing last time we were recording, but right now during the day I work as a research engineer, which is just a very fancy word for the person that does the bulk of the work when it comes to research. So I'm in the lab. doing, you know, laboratory work and I do the data collections and the statistical analysis of of this stuff that we do and I mainly work with genetics and behavioral welfare stuff when it comes to layer hens. So the chickens that lay our eggs that we eat. And then during the night or in the evenings, I do stuff that's related to horses and horse welfare and horse behavior.
As an pathologist and a reward-based trainer. So I do consultations and webinars and workshops and coaching and stuff. And I also talk loudly about horses and uh my opinions on the internet, which is why we're here, I think.
Yeah, I think that rocking the boat is something that a lot of rewards based trainers are associated with especially now following this recent competition because people are having very big feelings online about the British Pradelist competition. And it's been phenomenal to watch it unfold. I personally believe that right now the industry is going through a collective extinction burst and it is going to get worse before it gets better. And we're w like so basically buckle up, I guess, is what I'm saying.
think it's really true that the the idea of it being an extinction burst. W I I have a Swedish podcast with some Swedish people that I know about reward based horse training. And we have talked about this specifically that I think it's it like it really is following that curve. And we're not quite at the tipping point yet, but I fear that we just have to keep going. And it will just we'll get Over that hump and then it will get better. But we're not quite there yet. And I think we need to be prepared for it getting a little bit worse still.
I think it's gonna get like I think a little bit is a really positive way of looking at it. Cause I do think that Like I I think it'll be good and bad in the sense that there are people who are kind of fence sitting right now and they're deferring to defending what they're most comfortable with, which is a normal human response. And but I think that there's people who are watching what's happening and they're going, Okay, wait, like s a lot of the belief systems that I've held that this is kind of making me question them, but not necessarily outwardly where they're admitting that yet. But then we also have the people oftentimes who are like at the top scale of the sport. So like they're running the show.
They have built their whole status and life around being told That they are the best in that industry and having like the little guys and the people who are viewed as nobody's who like aren't as rich, we don't have as nice of horses. We're doing things unconventionally. We are all such a threat to what they have built that those a lot of those people I don't think are gonna change.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Who is Gaia Resmini and what is her background in rewards‑based horse training?
0:00–7:17
2
Why does Gaia describe the horse industry as experiencing an extinction burst?
7:17–15:16
3
How does the British brideless competition illustrate purity culture in rewards‑based training?
15:16–23:04
4
What impact does early horse‑training trauma have on adult riders?
23:04–31:03
5
Why is equipment insufficient for safety when horses are highly stressed?
31:03–39:31
6
How can emotional regulation improve horse safety and training outcomes?
39:31–48:01
7
What strategies can create systemic change in the horse industry?
48:01–56:05
8
How can the horse community foster progress over perfection and inclusive dialogue?
56:05–1:01:55