Michael Barkham, Ph.D., is a Professor of Clinical Psychology at the University of Sheffield, UK. He has spent the past 35 years promoting the measurement of psychological therapies in routine practice and the paradigm of practice-based evidence as a complement to trials-based methodologies. His research has also focused on the contribution of therapists as well as securing evidence supporting various models of psychological therapy. Most recently, with Wolfgang Lutz and Louis Castonguay, he was editor of the 7th edition of Bergin and Garfield’s Handbook of Psychotherapy and Behavior Change (2021) and the recipient of the 2019 Society for Psychotherapy Research (SPR) Senior Distinguished Research Career Award.Dr Jaime Delgadillo is a professor of clinical psychology at the University of Sheffield, and director of psychological therapies research at RDaSH NHS Foundation Trust. He has twenty years of clinical experience and has published over 90 scientific papers and book chapters in the field of mental health. He has been a principal investigator in clinical trials of psychotherapy and digital health interventions, supporting people with problems such as depression, anxiety, addictions, and occupational burnout. He is a member of the international Society for Psychotherapy Research and an associate editor of the society’s journal, Psychotherapy Research.In this episode, Bruce talks with Michael and Jaime about their work with the IAPT (Increased Access to Psychological Treatment) program in the UK and the benefits as well as some of the problems associated with a “stepped care” model of treatment.Michael and Jaime on the University of Sheffield websiteMichael Barkham on twitter: https://twitter.com/mjbarkhamLearn more about IAPT at https://www.england.nhs.uk/mental-health/adults/iapt/The intro and outro music is the Borromeo String Quartet performing Beethoven's "String Quartet No. 3 in D Major"www.makingtherapybetter.comSponsored By CarePaths EHR and Measurement Based Care

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