Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Wednesday, the 4th of March. My name is Holly Wainwright. My name is Amelia Lester. And my name is Claire Stephen. And here's what's made our agenda for today. In the middle of a dramatic conflict, why are there so many headlines about influencers stranded in Dubai?
I'm going to mount a vigorous defence for oversharing. TMI is back.
And is it the end of Kyle and Jackie O? We have questions.
But in case you missed it, has Jim Carrey been cloned? Now, I kept seeing headlines about his face looking weird and I didn't care because I haven't thought about Jim Carrey since The Mask.
Yeah.
which for younger listeners was during a period called the 1990s. But then I couldn't avoid this particular headline because in 2026, you know what? Jim Carrey probably has been cloned and it's not even the craziest thing to happen today. Jim Carrey was in Paris recently receiving a prestigious award of which there is no other kind in France.
And apparently he received the award by speaking in fluent French. But that wasn't even the strangest part of the whole thing. People thought he looked really different. And I'm talking really different. They were pointing out that this particular new Jim Carrey has light eyes, whereas real Jim Carrey has dark brown eyes.
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Chapter 2: What led to the end of Kyle and Jackie O's partnership?
They were pointing out other like little bits of his face that looked very different. Even Megan Fox, remember her, she got in on the action. She said, I can't handle any more stress right now. I need to know if this is real, you and me both, Megan, you and me both. Fortunately, Jim's rep did come out and he confirmed that Jim has not been cloned.
So we can all relax. That's what the rep of a clone would say. That's the thing. You're good.
So are you a clone believer? Yes.
Chapter 3: How did astrology spark a conflict on air?
Okay, the biggest source of confusion in this story for me is Jim Carrey in these photos and videos looks significantly less unrecognisable than most people in Hollywood right now. Like I was like, no, that's still him. That's still him. Does he look really different? Yeah.
Chapter 4: What are the implications of Jim Carrey's recent appearance?
But I honestly think there are about 25 other people we need to ask questions about.
Yeah, he kind of had like slightly longer hair to me. Cloud walls.
I know. I think it's interesting because clearly what has happened here is that Jim Carrey, and who knows over what period of time, because as you said, Amelia, we haven't really been watching, have we? We haven't really been paying close attention, has done a lot of things to his face.
Like some gua sha, some masks.
Yeah, definitely just that, some masks, some green masks.
Pun intended.
But what's interesting to me is that this is really interesting how this is how we talk about men who've done anti-aging procedures and surgeries. He's like, there must be something strange going on. He must be a clone. Whereas the women who are doing this, to your point, Claire, many, many are, we're all like, oh. So sad slash so amazing slash so tragic. Fire emoji. So tragic, but also go you.
But like with the men, we're just like, there must be a scientific explanation. I think it says a lot about how we view the aging of men and women differently.
And we find it interesting and like an investigation but not in the sense of has he had an upper bleph? Not that. No. It's like is he real? Yes, exactly. Is he real? Whereas when it's a woman, it's a moral failing. It is. And if she hasn't changed her face, she's utterly disgusting.
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Chapter 5: Why are influencers stranded in Dubai amidst a conflict?
I wonder... It's like a marriage.
Yeah, it really is. And I wonder, the other thing I kind of think I heard when I was listening to this, Jackie has, in terms of her brand, gone through a bit of a metamorphosis over the last couple of years coming out about this addiction that nobody had any idea about being incredibly vulnerable about how she was showing up to work and...
what her life looked like at that darkest, darkest moment. And I wonder when Kyle's having a dig about her being off with the fairies, about her not doing her job and everyone's talking about her, I think it kind of presses on a bruise for her. It's not just like a funny ha-ha or dopey Jackie, dopey Jackie.
It's actually that is my core vulnerability that I've shared with the world and you are pressing on it.
She also has another business going on, right, with her best friend and manager, Gemma O'Neill. And they have a business together called Besties and they do sort of events and trips and they bring out speakers to Australia. And that's clearly when she started that around the same time as the memoir, it all began to feel like next act stuff.
And again, as I sort of said before, one of the problems with her being able to move into whatever her next act is, is he's always an albatross there. Not in terms of finance and success, but in terms of a happy, positive, female-focused brand. It just is a clash that is not going to work.
And in terms of where they are professionally, I have always found it a little bit funny that, so with this new $100 million contract, they went on air in Melbourne and it didn't work. Yeah. Hasn't worked at all. Everyone in Melbourne was like, absolutely not. And I just think that is the biggest difference.
They're just ordering their like fancy types of espresso drinks and saying we don't have time for tradie versus lady, which he told me is a segment on the show.
I was explaining to Amelia tradie versus lady. And Amelia was like, is that because a tradie can't be a lady? And I said, no. Yes, Amelia. You've got it.
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Chapter 6: What role do influencers play during global crises?
In a moment, why TMI is actually A-OK.
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So oversharing is generally seen as, I think we can say, a bad thing. Think of some of the classic oversharers. Prince Harry, in his book Spare, talks about his frostbitten penis, which he solved with some Elizabeth Arden eight-hour cream.
What doesn't it do?
What doesn't it do?
Never again.
Or think about the Norwegian winter Olympian who at this Olympics desperately wanted to tell his girlfriend, who he loves very much, that he had recently cheated on her. In both these instances, you might ask, why is this our business? But a new book by a Harvard psychologist says that we would be wrong. In fact, oversharing is a kind of shortcut to intimacy. It's a secret power.
It can benefit our love lives, our careers, our friendships. And the only catch is that we have to be vulnerable. The book is called Revealing the Underrated Power of Oversharing by Leslie Johns. So Leslie says that you need to start sharing more in basically all situations. She says at work, great. Dating, definitely.
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