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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Monday the 12th of January and Out Loud is I'm so excited. It's 2026. We are back in your ears. Look, it's only the 12th as discussed and this year has already been a lot. Yeah. We're going to get to some of that soon. But maybe you're still on holidays.
Lucky you, we were till last week. Maybe you've worked all the way through.
Chapter 2: What were the standout moments from the Golden Globes?
Maybe where you are has been affected by fires. Maybe you have been waiting out a cyclone. Maybe you have been wondering how there are still three weeks of school holidays left. Maybe you are, like me, drinking green sludge out of a water bottle because you've got some bullshit health resolutions. That looked real grim this morning. It looked like river water brought back from my trip.
Whatever is happening in your January Outlouders, welcome back to Outloud. From now until next bloody Christmas, our promise to you is that we will be here every Monday, every Wednesday and every Friday all year long. But not only then, because big news for subscribers. Yeah. Now, you should know out loud is that subscribers get extra shows. They also get a show on a Tuesday and a Thursday.
And this year you want to be around for that because they're getting bedazzled, souped up, completely done over by one Mia Friedman. Mia is back. She is.
She's described it as like it's going to be like going out to dinner with Mia. She's got an agenda. She's got some things she wants to talk about. She's paying the bill. Oh, she's paying the bill. The thing about the paywall too is that, you know, it's a safe space. She can talk about what she wants.
And if you are on the fence about becoming a subscriber, because who among us did not cancel a few subscriptions over the break? I went through, got a rude shock about some of the things I was subscribed to. But there's Mia. That's a draw card for some.
Yeah.
For others. We'll be with her, by the way.
A mixture of us.
A mixture of us and Amelia will be with me on those Tuesdays and Thursdays.
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Chapter 3: How did Ashley Tisdale's essay on toxic motherhood create controversy?
They've always tagged them all for ages. And that was a big part. Apparently, like Brooklyn was like, stop it. You're treating me like a child and like I'm part of a unit, but I'm a grown up now with my own family at my wife's billionaire's mansion in Miami. So just give me a break. But what I've noticed is now David is posting because they had a great Christmas.
I mean, I'm sure that on the inside they were crying, but they posted a lot of their now trademark drunk dancing, slow dancing videos. There were Santa hats. They were chopping down Christmas trees in their unreasonably large garden. There was all of that was going on. But I noticed that now Beckham's just saying, I love all my kids and not tagging. So what about the others?
Chapter 4: What sparked the feud among celebrity mothers?
Won't somebody think of their Instagram followers? Yeah, how are they going to grow their followers?
The family collabs are dead. Now the other update is, of course, that Nicola, just in the last few days, has gone through her own Instagram profile and, like a woman scorned by a bad ex-boyfriend, has deleted every photo ever taken with Victoria, with David. No, she didn't. Yes, she has. She's deleted all of it.
And the thing is, is a couple of Christmases ago she was right there in the Santa hat. She was going, love my mill, mother-in-law. You don't get involved. She shouldn't have gone involved. Something really big must have happened. One day we'll find out what it is because the loose lips are significant here. It was Cruise, I think, who confirmed. Posted the Instagram story.
It was Cruise who confirmed that they were blocked. Since then I've seen sources from both sides, from the Beckham side, as in Vicky and David, in People magazine, The Peltz's side are more likely to be on page six in the New York Post. Like they are sort of warring via PR. So we might find out their stories, but it's pretty sad.
In the spirit of just going rogue because we've just got back, whose side are you on?
Come on. Look, obviously I'm on Vicky's side.
I am too. She does a great lip liner.
And I think that has to count for something. However, the most recent report I read in Page Six, I think it was, said that the reason that Brooklyn Beckham had said no more liking and tapping was to protect his mental health. This is very Prince Harry. This is. Extremely Harry and Meghan is what's going on here.
And I don't want to mock that because, you know, people cut off their family for very valid reasons and there could be all kinds of shit going on that we don't know about. But on the surface of it, when Vicky's in her little slip dress dancing with David and he's got his Santa hat on, I'm just like, oh, darling, there's a little empty seat at that glorious catered table.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the Beckham family estrangement?
And Trump explicitly mentioned this after the incident that I'm about to discuss, saying that Maduro was trying to imitate his dance and calling it a form of violent defiance. Yeah, indeed. So I'm not suggesting that it was the dance that caused what happened next, but this is certainly unprecedented. And there was personal tension between the two men. Yes. Okay.
And we do know Trump's an emotional guy. Yeah. But with all that considered, it was pretty unprecedented, which is a word that we've got very used to. in the past 10 years when the US government sent their own military into Caracas, which is the capital, on January the 3rd to capture and arrest Maduro and his wife, who's called Celia Flores, and bring them to the US.
They killed at least 75 people in the process of doing that. Trump then said that the US now runs Venezuela until a new government is sorted out, crucially a pro-American one. We're going to run the country right, he said, and it's going to make a lot of money. Maduro and Flores are in federal custody in New York.
He's been charged with narco-terrorism, cocaine importation, conspiracy and weapons charges. So that's what happened. And what you're hearing about it around the internet will be versions of one of two positions on this. One of those is well-placed military might removes dangerous despot from desperate country. Or the other is overreach of imperialist power in pursuit of the control of oil.
Either way, it's not the usual playbook for America to just like swoop in, arrest a country's leader and declare itself in charge. And that's what's got some other mineral rich countries like Greenland, for example, worried.
I think that's what's scary, right, is that, I mean, I was watching this story unfold and I asked my cleverest friends who know a lot about foreign policy and politics and international affairs what I was to make of this because I am not an expert in, you know, this part of the world. And they said it's really complicated. It's really complicated because...
On the surface, what Trump did, maybe that is a good thing. But what's terrifying is that we don't ever really know Trump's motivations. So we don't know if it's because he wants to free the Venezuelan people from this, you know, dictatorship, or if it's about oil. And the impulsivity and the lack of transparency about why he's doing something, I think is scary on a world stage.
And then I was trying to understand what Venezuelans made of it, because a lot of civilians have felt oppressed and they have wanted to be freed by this oppressive regime. But of course, it's a lot more complicated than that.
Yeah, I was looking for interviews that people have done with Venezuelans who lived in Australia because I feel like that's the only way I can really make understanding of what's going on. And it's kind of similar, like it's still a lot of uncertainty. Like some of them are hopeful that they can maybe go back to Venezuela and see their family. Some people are still scared.
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Chapter 6: How does the current situation in Venezuela affect global politics?
And that felt really icky to me.
I just reckon that we love these stories because we get to blame women for their own alienation in motherhood. We get to point the finger and just go, see, you're all mad, that's why you're lonely, when that's not true. And after the break, there is someone banging down our door, desperate to bring their notes into the Golden Globes discussion. We have been watching it today.
We have lots of thoughts, lots of opinions. We'll be back after the break.
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You know how Jessie feels about award shows, which is like this. Meh. I was like, Holly, where do I watch it? We thought, Em, how do you feel about award shows?
I'm very, very excited. I'm kind of annoyed I'm here with you guys because it's still going on and I'm looking outside the door.
Can we wrap this up? But we thought we would bring a special guest, somebody who out loud has already been told on today's show is coming back hard tomorrow.
Hi, guys. I am coming back hard tomorrow. Today I'm coming back soft. Yes, soft return. There's no softer way to come back than when your only job is to watch the Golden Globes. Yeah, you've been taking it really seriously. And I know that podcast is our preferred medium in terms of it being audio, but I just want to show you I'm holiday on the top, but then on the bottom I'm red carpet.
Do we call that red carpet? And I'm trolling myself by wearing no pants under my see-through sparkly skirt.
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Chapter 7: What changes have been made to the food pyramid and why does it matter?
You sound very confident about it.
He wanted his own bum in it. There's a very unusual scene involving his bum. I think he did a lot of ping pong practice. What's unusual about his bum? The crack, oh, I don't want to shame anyone, but the crack starts so low.
Oh, bless him. I love the thing about Timothy is we can diss him as much as we like. That movie's a hit. It's very, very hard to have a hit. It's an arthouse movie. It has opened hugely. People love him. He has cross-generational appeal. It's so interesting.
He's a real actor. He needed it to be a hit. because I can't remember why, and he worked really hard.
But he does for everything. But they say that he's the only Gen Z actor who can open a film, him and Zendaya.
I would now add to that list, the reason I asked about Gwyneth's bum is that two other bums that I spent a lot of time with over the break, we're going to be talking about it in a subs episode later this week, Connor Story and Hudson Williams from Heated Rivalry. They presented together. Yep. I have a couple of notes. It was a good joke. It started off as a good joke.
So they came on and Connor's story was like, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm here, like almost pantomime acting. Yeah. Like, oh, in this big room, which is true. Like they have had six weeks ago I think they were still waiting tables. And now they are like the biggest stars in the world. Oh, sorry, the joke. Tell the joke how that was.
The joke that was very funny is they said, you've all seen He Did Rivalry, right? And the room kind of went, because there are probably a lot of A-listers there who think that's a bit beneath me. But then they said, we'll take that as a maybe, he said. And then he said, but your trainers have and your mums have and your daughters have.
That was a very good joke.
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