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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast. Hello Outlouders, it's Holly here and I want to tell you about something I think a lot of you need in your life. It's called Unleashed and it's a new podcast that everyone is talking about. It's for Gen X women who need a laugh. And when I say need a laugh, I mean not like a polite little chuckle while you're making dinner.
I mean the kind of laugh where you have to pause the podcast because you're walking the dog and you realise you're laughing out loud in the street.
Chapter 2: What unexpected event did Grace experience in her apartment?
It's hosted by six very funny, very smart, very unfiltered women. Sally Hepworth, Mary Kustis, Grace Lam, Dr Ginny Mansberg, Bruna Papandrea and the delightful Kath Mahoney. And the whole show feels a bit like being at a really good dinner.
You know, the one where everyone starts out talking about something normal and then 12 minutes later someone's telling a story about head lice, chronic pain, a dental splint, Dolly Parton and the neighbourhood Facebook group. It's warm, it's a bit rogue, and then suddenly it will go somewhere unexpectedly tender. Because that is midlife, isn't it?
So today we're dropping an episode of Unleashed right here in the Mamma Mia Out Loud feed. Give it a listen, see what you think, and if you love it, and I think so many of you will love it, search Unleashed in your podcast app and hit follow. All right, here it is. Welcome to Unleashed.
Hello and welcome to Unleashed, a podcast for Gen X women who need a laugh. This podcast, I can promise you three things. What are they, Kev? First of all, you will not learn anything. Yes. Nope. No. Good. Secondly, we are not talking about the news. This is not that show. News. And third, you don't have to remember anything. Thank God. The best. I know. Hopefully we will.
Anyway, who is on the couch with me today?
I'm Mary Cousis. I'm an actress writer. I'm Bruna Papandreou. I'm a film and television producer.
Hello, people. It's Graceland Fashion Stylist in the house.
Hi, and I am Kath Coney, a comedian.
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Chapter 3: Why does Mary feel overwhelmed by saying 'I love you'?
It's hard to follow, isn't it, Kath? All right, on this show, we have a talking stick. Whoever has the stick has the floor. You can talk about anything you want, big or small, petty or polarizing. Who wants to start?
Me. I'll go first. I'm an only child. Grace? So, something crazy happened recently. What?
I don't know.
I had to fight off an intruder.
What? Are you serious?
I know, I know. I mean, for people who don't know what I look like, I'm only 5'5". I'm Chinese. I would say I'm more of a slim built person. So one night I was sleeping. Hang on, hang on. You're fighting off an intruder in your home. So I was sleeping. And one thing about me you might not know that I have sonic hearing. What's that? I can hear everything from very far away.
I can even hear where my son... So even when you're asleep, you can still hear it. Like puppies. Oh, yeah. Like when my son coughs, I can hear it. And he's on the other side of the flat. So one night I was sleeping and then suddenly I hear this rattling noise. And by the way, I can also hear you bitch about me.
I was sleeping and I heard some rattling noise and I thought it was our son going to the toilet in the middle of the night. It wasn't. So I got out of bed, went over the other side of the apartment, went to the toilet to check on him. He wasn't there. Went into his room. He was fast asleep. Then I still hear this rattling noise. I creep to the door, look through the keyhole.
There was a fucking guy in a red baseball cap. No. Jacket, shirt, trying to break into our door. Oh my God. My immediate thought was like, oh my God, should I wake up Jason? Because he's on the other side of the apartment, right? But by the time I get there, that guy might have come in. And where we were is much closer to my kid's room. So I was like, oh my God, I need to protect my kid.
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Chapter 4: How has Cath's perspective on holidays changed after her divorce?
Okay, can I just stop you for a second? I mean, I would just be waking up my husband at this point.
Screaming. Yeah, but she's screaming. I would be screaming. Yeah, screaming.
Or are you like, no, they're not in yet. I'm going to just go protect my kid.
I don't know what came over me. All I thought was like, I'm going to take charge and I'm not going to inform Jason, my husband, straight away.
Wow.
And I basically started banging on the door like a crazy woman. Yeah. But I lower my voice to five octaves so I don't sound like a woman. Yeah. So basically... I was going, get the fuck out of here, you fucker! I was going off and he wouldn't budge. He will not budge.
This is terrifying.
It was so crazy. I mean, by then. Is Jason up at this point? Jason, my husband, was up already. And he's terrified. Yeah. And he was like, what's going on? What's going on? And another thing is, ladies, I wear a splint like a mouth guard when I sleep. So me trying to threaten and intrude there. When I have my lisp, I'm going, stop it. It didn't go down very well. Get away from this floor.
Stop it. No, stop. I mean, it didn't go down very well. So I wasn't as stretching as I thought. Is Theo your son up at this point? I was going, what's going on? And I was like, get the fuck out of here, you fucker.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does Bruna face living with lupus?
What are you trying to do? He would not stop. What time is this? It was 3am. And I turned around and said to Jason, call the police. Call a concierge downstairs. And I think that guy heard us. And he went away. And I thought, oh my God, he's doing the rounds on a whole floor. The thing with my building is it's a really safe building. Unless you have a fob on the same floor, you can't get in.
So I thought, oh my God, how did he get in, right? Yeah, the plot thickens. Oh my God. And then... I looked through the keyhole. He came back and he said, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm like, oh my God, it's the neighbors. Drunk. Yes.
It was the neighbors. Drunk. Oh, he was trying to get into the wrong apartment.
He was too drunk to know. He got the wrong door.
Yeah.
Well, that I've done. Oh my God. And I thought, you know, my cortisol went through the roof. Awful. Of course. And after I, then I realized, oh my God, it's the neighbors. Drunk, right? Yeah. An intruder is not going to apologise. Come on. Grace, you don't know your neighbours. You don't know what they look like. You've not seen him before. I've not seen him before. Do you know why?
Because our next-door neighbours... It's a couple, like a couple, an old couple, and they live somewhere else in another state. And they only come to Melbourne once in a blue moon to see their son and the grandkids. So I know that's the son who's probably having a weekend with the boys and got out of hand and away from the kids. So he was having a blast.
But to be fair, our door is exactly the same. Yeah, no, I don't kind of blame that guy. I know, but 3am in the morning, come on.
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Chapter 6: What humorous incident did Grace have with head lice?
And I woke up the next, so then I said to Jason, so Jason said, was Kath with him? Just kidding. So I said to Jason, go to bed, let our son sleep with you tonight. I'm going to guard the door. And Jason just went, you guarding the door? I'm like, yes, let me guard the door because I feel strong. You know, I'm like, not a mama bear because I was Chinese, like a mama panda. I'm like, you know what?
Let me guard the door. I'm going to fight whoever's going to come in. Oh. He was like, okay, Grace, I'll let you do you. Even though I'm six foot, I'm stronger than you. I'm like, go, go sleep. But didn't you know at this point you were safe? No, I know, but I wasn't calm. The adrenaline would have been pumping through your body. It was too much. And then the next day I woke up.
The first thing I said to my boys were, I already have a speech that I'm going to tell that guy what I think of him, 3 a.m. in the morning. I said, don't let me see him today. If I see him today, he's going to get it today. And Jason was like, good morning to you too. You know, that's how I roll.
And Grace, did you sleep in front of the door? Did you sleep in your son's bedroom?
I slept in my son's bedroom because it's very close to the door. And yeah, I was guarding it all night. With your eyes closed?
With a tennis racket right next to me. Did you keep your splint on?
I did something I'd never done before, which I'm sure a lot of people listening have done before. I was at the Crown Hotel for something and had a room and the key wasn't working to my room and I was like, it's not working. And there was someone on the floor cleaning the rooms and I was like, I'm so sorry, I don't want to go downstairs because it's a pretty large hotel.
Can you please open the door? No. And they did. Turns out I hadn't looked at the room number properly and I walked in and a guy was sitting on the bed. Oh, my God. And it was the wrong room. So I kind of identify with that guy. But, Bernie, when you walked in and you saw the guy sitting on the bed, did you still think it was your room for a minute? No. At that point.
At that point I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And I felt so bad that I'd also put this other person in that position. But that had never happened to me where I was like fully, no, no, no, the key's not working, you guys. Oh, my God, it always happens to me. And I totally just looked at the room number wrong.
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Chapter 7: Which songs have had a significant impact on the hosts' lives?
So... I kind of feel for your neighbour a little bit.
Yes, but I was so... You didn't bump into him? No, not yet. Not yet? I'm looking out for him. Yeah, I'm looking out for him. Don't you worry. I actually think that I saw him yesterday because he wouldn't look... This guy wouldn't look at me. Oh, yeah. He wouldn't look at me in the eye. He knows. So he knows. I mean, he had a bit of a night.
That's all right. I'm waiting to see you on the Daily Mail. Not in a good way. Going viral. Yeah.
All right, on that note, who wants a stick? I do. Merry couscous. Okay, now what I'm about to say might make me sound like a monster. Ooh. Yeah. The other day I was on the phone to our fantastic producer, Moms, and at the end of a very good call, was not romantic in any way, Moms said, I love you.
Oh, that's lovely.
Yeah. No? Yeah, and I love her but I don't think we're at the point where we should be saying it. And then I was thinking, you know, we're saying I love you too much. Oh. And I love a lot. You do. I've been loved well and I think I love really well and yet I don't want to throw it around willy-nilly, Nilsen.
Oh, I think I squirt it around like it's suntan lotion. I do. It's like, oh, it's like my HRT. I just cover everyone in it.
Look, I'm all for saying it but are we saying it now as a way of trying to communicate something else? Is it a way of saying sorry? Is it a way of saying hi, it was nice to meet you? Or is it a way of, you know, saying I'm feeling grateful or I feel really good right now? I just feel like we've diluted the word, the concept of I love you a lot in recent generations.
I do wish there was because in a lot of languages there are a lot of different words for love, aren't there? Correct. And I do wish we had something between like and love, especially on date two for me. I'm going out with a guy on the second date that I'm feeling it for. It's like I need a mid-range strong word that's not love.
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Chapter 8: How do the hosts navigate their feelings about love and relationships?
And I think our generation probably didn't say it as much as this generation. And, you know, certainly in America there's a lot of positive affirmations, shall we say? You know what they are, Kath. I do. I do. But I kind of go out of my way because I don't think I'm particularly naturally, you know, I'm not a big fan of a hug.
You're not touchy.
Well, I'm not touchy and I don't love a hug from a complete stranger, shall we say. But I do tell my kids and people I love, I love them all the time. And what's wrong with them? What's the negative?
Hey, I've got no issue with telling the people you love. I have issue with telling people that you might not even know their surname or where they live that you love them.
Look, I mean, I'm a big advocate for love. You know, the other day I'd sort of, I'd asked Lewis to, you know, say, you know, I said, I love you. He's like, yeah. He said, do you always say that? I was like, yeah. And then I just went, you know what? No one says it to me. Maybe I just need you to say that. Can you say it back? And he was, this is on the way to school, poor kid.
Half eight, he'd barely been awake. I was like, I just need it. Yeah. I love love. But to Mary's point, I knew that I was loved. But like our family weren't big on the big L word. So when I was last at home and, you know, my parents are late 70s now. So, you know, I'm very kind of all over them like a rash just in case. And it's Christmas time and I was like...
You guys, like you never say you love each other.
Do you?
I don't really see you hug or hold hands. My mum and dad have been like, you know, married 51. Imagine if they said no. 51 years I think they've been married. Like my mum has only ever been with my dad. Like they are a rock solid couple. And they were just like, you know, we know. We don't need to say it. So now every WhatsApp chat, every time I close the FaceTime, they go, love you.
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