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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Wednesday the 3rd of June. I'm Holly Wainwright. I'm Clare Stephens. And I'm Amelia Lester. And here is what has made our agenda for today.
The boy mum controversy that has me terrified for the next phase of my life.
The one thing you should never say when you meet someone, or is it?
And women shouldn't be allowed to write books. Discuss. But first, just putting it out there. Controversial Opinions Wednesday. Anyway, first, in case you missed it. The sun's shining in Europe, and so the tennis is happening. I'm sports correspondent for today. We've been passing that mic around.
Chapter 2: What controversy surrounds female umpires in tennis?
Last week, it was you, Claire Stevens. Yeah, wow. I don't know how much I trust this, but continue.
I know, especially not with tennis. Better with football, tennis, not so much. But anyway, I'm going to give it a go because there is this thing, this tournament called Roland Garros, which is also the French Open. I had to make sure they were the same thing. They are the same thing, just like Wimbledon is Wimbledon. I kept hearing about Roland. I was like, who's Roland? Exactly. Who is Roland?
There'll be an answer to that, won't there? And this week, there was a bit of a ding-dong at the French Open over some umpires being... Oh, oh my God. I know. I'm shocked. Now, to be clear, the umpires who get to adjudicate over the big Grand Slam titles, so French Open, US Open, Wimbledon, Aussie Open, etc., are called the gold badge ones.
So they are the top of their field, just like in any other sport. You don't just pull the volunteer referee from Saturday football and put them on the grand final. So these are the big guns. But in a game that was played by Paraguayan Adolfo Daniel Vallejo, he criticized his female umpire and said that this level of game should only be umpired by a man.
His game was five hours long, which is like, that's really, really long. Oh my gosh. And it was hot. And the crowd got rowdy. And we have talked a little bit lately, if we've talked about tennis at all, about how the polite, like just sitting around and doing little finger claps at tennis is over. Everybody yells now.
And his words were, a game like this, he got asked whether or not he thought it should have been umpired by a woman, by a magazine called Clay Magazine. And he said, it has to be refereed by a man. Because it's a very demanding crowd and you need a lot of strength to go against the crowd.
It's not normal for the crowd to be shouting for a full minute without any play in a match where the physical aspect matters so much. If you give a player a lot of time, he's going to take advantage of it. So basically, he's making the point that an umpire, a big part of what a tennis umpire does is they tell the crowd to shut up.
And what he's insinuating here is the crowd wouldn't listen because the umpire was a woman. Thoughts.
And he lost, to be clear.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of the 'boy mom' label?
Six months late.
Oh, I'm sorry. I'm not getting the pure, unenriched TikToks. I'm getting the distilled TikToks on Instagram. My bad. I'm reading books, Claire. That's what I'm doing. I digress. Spend any time on TikTok slash Instagram and you will see a video with a caption which begins POV. This has become a very common format. And that, of course, stands for point of view.
There's an article in the New York Times this week that says that everyone under 40 is using this term wrong. As Outloud's official most annoying host, and I say that because I'm always on time and I used to have the job title of Fat Checker. That is a true thing. This is the second in a series of mine, which began on Monday, when I lambasted Gen Z for not using enough capital letters.
So now in the second of my series, it falls to me, it seems, to explain what POV actually means. Claire? I see you have a pen and paper. Please pick up the pen. If you caption a video, POV, you're too short to reach the top shelf, that should feature a camera tilted up at something just out of reach.
It should not depict a short person hopping up and down in the middle of the screen trying to reach a shelf. You got that? POV is being used as synonymous with fly on the wall, and that is just not right. Have you told everybody what it actually stands for? Yeah, point of view. Holly, keep up. Incidentally, the same thing. Now I have your attention. The same thing has happened with aesthetic.
That doesn't mean pretty or good looking or nice. It means what something looks like. It's like the look of something. So that's very aesthetic is not a correct use of the word aesthetic.
Oh my God, my daughter says that all the time.
As you can see, I am fun at parties. Any questions?
Okay, firstly, I went to pitch a branded content video recently and went to do the POV trend, and that was the moment that I went, No, it's not POV. It's not. It's fly on the wall. Which is F-O-T-W. Let's bring F-O-T-W into the mix. It's not as catchy, is it? No. It's not as catchy. And I had a full existential crisis thinking, well, I want to be on trend. I want to be cool.
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Chapter 4: Why did a famous 'boy mom' make a disturbing comment about marriage?
But if I say nice to meet you and you come straight back with, oh, we've met, I am mortified. You have arrow to the heart.
Don't you want to be reminded? You could have had a really important conversation last time you spoke. No way I want everyone to pretend that it's fine. I totally disagree. For me, the violent act is not the we've met, it's the nice to meet you.
Wait, I'm sorry. That's a very common pleasantry. What is your problem with that?
No, like nice to meet you when you've already met. That is violent. That is violent.
Answer me this. If we have this encounter and I say nice to meet you and you say we've met, what am I supposed to say?
Let's just cosplay it. Okay. No, not cosplay. Is that the word? Yeah, role play. Oh, my God.
Look who's getting the words wrong now. If we were in cocktail dresses, that would be cosplay.
Okay, so I'm going to hold up my mug and I'm at a cocktail party. I say, nice to meet you, Amelia Lester. Oh, actually, Holly, we met once before. Remember, we met at a party and no. See, it's a conversation. What am I going to say?
What am I going to say? What does Holly say in response? Oh, yeah, I remember that. No, she doesn't. It's a conversation opener. You say, we met at the party. You take this. It's actually harder than it seems.
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