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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud. It's what women are actually talking about on Wednesday the 25th of March. I'm Holly Wainwright and if you're one of those people, if you have an iPhone and you're one of those people who's always going, is saying, shall I update? And you just go later, later, later, later.
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Anyway, sorry, that's me. Who are you guys? I'm Claire Stephens. And I'm Em Burnham, filling in for Amelia today. God help us all.
We're like, Em, are you a geopolitical expert?
I'll pass the mic to Amelia when she gets back. Okay, let's see. Well, here's what's made our agenda for today, Em. Speaking of missing Amelia, the petrol price panic. I have a lot of questions that I immediately need answered.
Plus, Sarah Ferguson has been caught up in an alleged corgi cloning saga. Yes, you heard that right. And I want to talk about it.
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Chapter 2: What is causing the current petrol price panic?
Why not build a phenomenal life for herself? Why not pitch a program idea to Netflix? Why not write a book or lead a retreat or fly to Australia? Why not believe in more?
Chapter 3: What bizarre reality TV project is Sarah Ferguson involved in?
Why not believe you are capable and deserving? Why not be confident? Why not ask? Why not try? And I thought that clearly for the people who knew Mel, this why not attitude of hers was infectious and will be part of her legacy. And I think that that's something that's worth sharing, even if for those of us who's like dreams,
might be smaller than those, you know, than Mel's, or quieter than those. Like her message is like, listen to your body, get yourself checked, love hard, and why not?
Changing pace, Sarah Ferguson, a.k.a. Fergie, a.k.a. the former Duchess of York.
It's an important distinction to make because the problem that Fergie has is there's another Fergie. Exactly. She's much less problematic than this Fergie.
And for me, the other Fergie is the main Fergie. I would assume it's the same for you, Em.
Every time at Mamma Mia we talk about Fergie, I've been thinking of the Black Eyed Peas one.
Whereas for me, my age and background, this is Fergie number one. Yes. The other Fergie is Fergie number two. Anyway, we digress. Oh, my God, it's like Fergie's clone, like Corgi's clone.
Yeah. Yeah, well.
She's been through it before.
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Chapter 4: How does the war in the Middle East affect petrol supply?
Fergie has been caught up in serious controversy in the last few years surrounding her and her ex-husband's connections to the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. So that's been happening. We've seen her name in the headlines for a lot of reasons and she is not looking good. But there's another far more trivial controversy.
Chapter 5: What legacy did Mel Schilling leave behind?
That is currently afoot and I need to break it down. So Fergie has been accused of making plans to clone and sell the late Queen Elizabeth II's corgis for a reality TV show.
I have already clicked on this reality TV show in my head.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like... In my head I'm like, how do I buy a corgi? Yeah. One of the Queen's ones.
Yeah.
According to the Mail on Sunday, Fergie was involved in talks back in 2023 to clone the Queen's last remaining dogs, Mewick and Sandy.
Claire, it's pronounced Mick.
Is it? Wow.
How do you know that? Mick and Sandy, R-A-I.
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Chapter 6: What are the implications of petrol shortages for regional areas?
I know. I love that the robot's been thinking about it.
I trust you. I really thought it was quite fancy. I was imagining a queen.
Chapter 7: How do panic buying trends affect the economy?
Muick is a nice name. Yeah.
Sorry, continue.
So she wanted to, apparently in the context of this show, the idea was to clone the Queen's last remaining dogs, Mick and Sandy, to then sell to other dog lovers around the world. To me, it sounds like Fergie had kind of two revenue streams coming from this project, which was like reality TV, long line of dogs to sell.
Yeah. It's like when Meg's made the Netflix show, she's like, reality TV and jam. And you could buy the jam on Netflix. This is like that, but with live puppies. Nothing wrong with that at all.
No. So the report claims that she met with executives from Halcyon Studios and other companies in the US. And producers did develop a synopsis for the show. Would you like to hear it? Yes, please. Of course. So I guess you would like click on the show and this would be the little thing that tells you what it's about.
When Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York, interesting wording, because former Duchess of York, is bequeathed two of the Queen's beloved corgis, she decides to embark on a bold and controversial business venture, cloning the royal pups. But as she navigates the complex world of genetics and royal protocol, Sarah must also grapple with her own personal demons and strained relationship.
with the royal family oh my god when they pitched this did they think that was the extent of fergie's dramas and demons clearly clearly and it apparently went on fergie was thrilled to learn that she had been remembered in the queen's will but surprised to learn that rather than jewelry or money the queen left her two of her beloved corkies
Which I find interesting because I'm like, I assumed, Fergie, that you had some very deep emotional relationship with these dogs and that's why you were given them.
I have something to say about this. Firstly, I don't know what bequeath means, but I don't like that use of words.
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Chapter 8: How does Rachel Zoe's return to reality TV reflect on divorce culture?
The Queen was not the biggest fan of Ferg's. There is famously, and I think we've got an episode of a podcast about this, famously when Fergie and Andrew were separated but still friendly, Fergie was having an affair with this Texan oil guy and she was photographed, he was photographed sucking her toes.
I remember.
She told me the story. The infamous tabloid toe-sucking incident.
The Queen would not.
into my memory as a young person. But the truth of that is that the day that newspaper came out, Fergie was staying at Balmoral with the whole royal family and the queen. And she had to come downstairs with all the newspapers on the table with her in her bikini getting her toes sucked by a Texan billionaire. And the queen, by all very respectable sources' accounts, was like, get out of my castle.
Absolutely.
And Fergie's like, do you want a corky? And she's like, no, no, I have enough.
And by the time the Queen died, like that relationship had been repaired to a point, but there was a lot of drama there. So I think that William and Catherine in particular are very much like, stop pretending the Queen liked you, Fergs. Anyway, it is also given a lot of credence, this report, by the fact that Fergie's people have responded. Have you got that?
Yeah, because you're like, oh, mail on Sunday, like maybe it was, I mean, I was going to say maybe it was a slow news day. I don't think it was, given the state of the world right now. That's so true. But you're like, maybe it's not legit. Well... Or you think maybe Fergie is distracted by other things at the moment where this is not the story she'll respond to. You would be wrong.
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