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Marketplace All-in-One

David Brancaccio reflects on thousands of conversations

10 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

1.465 - 25.887 David Brancaccio

A reminder that whatever the headline, when it comes to investing, do not do anything rash. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. First, there's news the Iran conflict's effect on gas prices has driven up the Consumer Price Index, which shows today prices up nine-tenths percent in March, up 3.3 percent in a year, the highest in two years, gasoline up 21 percent last month.

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25.867 - 46.755 David Brancaccio

The keynote here today is a conversation with the Princeton economics professor who has argued for half a century that you cannot time when to get in or out of stocks, Burton Malkiel. Princeton professor emeritus is author of what is arguably the most influential investing book of all time, A Random Walk Down Wall Street, now in a 13th edition.

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47.175 - 54.625 David Brancaccio

Here's an excerpt from our conversation about concern now that stocks related to artificial intelligence are a bubble that could pop.

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54.925 - 68.23 Burton Malkiel

Is it possible that we are in the midst of an AI bubble? Absolutely. We have had bubbles in the stock market with every revolutionary event.

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Chapter 2: What economic impact does the Iran conflict have on gas prices?

68.711 - 90.819 Burton Malkiel

We had this with the internet revolution when the market then collapsed dramatically. and went down 40% between the beginning of 2000 and the end of 2002. But we don't know if we're in the top of the third inning of an AI bubble or the bottom of the ninth.

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90.839 - 104.076 David Brancaccio

Now, some say it's a bubble. Others say relax. I personally never relax. But for those worried it's a bubble that could pop... What should they do given your experience over more than half a century?

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104.537 - 142.638 Burton Malkiel

For those listeners who are worried. The market is a lot lower in terms of its prices relative to earnings today than they were at the top of the Internet bubble. When a lot of those Internet companies sold at 100 times earnings or more, the market's not cheap today. but it is far more reasonably priced than it was then. Yes, rebalance. If your equities are too large now, definitely rebalance.

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142.658 - 148.745 Burton Malkiel

Do not, do not try to time the market. You'll never get it right.

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149.966 - 187.699 David Brancaccio

Random Walk author Burton Malkiel still going strong at 93. Our full conversation, streamable from marketplace.org now. This is my last day hosting the Marketplace Morning Report. I'm shifting to a new role still over here that I'm very jazzed about. I'll be our special correspondent covering future effects, decisions now that shape our economic futures, a sleuth for consequences, if you will.

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But thinking back on the 13 years covering Brexit, the inflation surge, and now let's call it reverse globalization, things stick with me like from April 2020. The economic narrative now is horrifying, and we've been facing it head on. For instance, today we'll be reporting data likely showing that more than 20 million Americans were thrown out of work over the last four weeks.

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Also from the archive, the time I pressed famed economist Paul Krugman on freer trade and globalization being a big cause of economic inequality. Krugman's research says trade is unfairly blamed, and listen to how he swats this flea. You think...

227.59 - 237.124 Paul Krugman

The trade issue is overblown. I've got a lot of personal human capital invested in trade because that's what I did. That's what I got the Swedish thingy for.

237.685 - 256.912 David Brancaccio

The Swedish thingy, yes. The Swedish thingy. But look. Dr. Krugman essentially clobbers my point using his Nobel Prize in economics. Final score, Krugman won, Brancaccio zero. The only Swedish thingy I got is a packet of meatballs from Ikea. Another moment reminds us of the importance of local journalism.

Chapter 3: Is there a possibility of an AI bubble in the stock market?

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I was working on a series about news deserts in America, places essentially devoid of local news coverage now. I was along the border in Del Rio, Texas, site of a big story a few years earlier when thousands of refugees from Haiti were detained under a bridge across the Rio Grande. Border Patrol wasn't talking, and to get the story, it took an experienced local reporter.

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One of that reporter, Karen Gleason's longtime connections, was Del Rio's mayor, an official who had permission to enter the camp of migrants where news media had been excluded. Gleason told it like this.

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291.233 - 301.982 Karen Gleason

He goes, we're going to hide you in the back of my car. They covered me with blankets, and we went through the Border Patrol checkpoint at the fence, and And he'd tell me, like, OK, nobody's looking.

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302.442 - 324.793 David Brancaccio

Gleason then got her firsthand account to residents on a fledgling local news website that had sprung up to try to fill the void in a town that now had no daily paper. And you get to meet childhood heroes, including the day I'm in the Marketplace New York bureau. And who walks through but James T. Kirk of the Starship Enterprise himself. William Shatner, then 87, was in the house.

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on his way to a gig at Canadian Broadcasting down the hall. I grabbed him for us because Shatner, the actor, is also Mr. Shatner Entrepreneur, who talked to me of the resilience needed for both the acting and the business game.

338.412 - 361.586 William Shatner

Being an entrepreneur really means dedicating yourself to the thing that you think is important. And you may fail. In fact, you have to fail. Because being an entrepreneur is taking risk, right? And sometimes it means fail. And if you're taking risk, you don't know what the outcome is going to be. And a great deal has to do with luck. So if you're not lucky this time, gather yourself up.

361.966 - 372.702 William Shatner

Try again sooner or later. If you're smart, if you're aware, you will learn by your mistakes. And only by making the mistakes can you learn what not to do and what to do.

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Shatner told us how he was paid very little and saved nothing from the first Star Trek series, but got passionate about nest egging after that experience. Anyway, I'll still be around here, but not getting up every day at 2 a.m. to go live. Thank you for being there for Public Media, especially this year. In Los Angeles, I'm David Brancash. From APM, American Public Media.

398.905 - 421.018 David Brancaccio

The economy moves fast, and when headlines turn on a dime, it is essential that you feel informed rather than overwhelmed. Hey, I'm David Brancaccio, special correspondent for Marketplace and an avid reader of the Marketplace newsletter. Not that I'm partial. Every Friday, Marketplace curates must-read stories from the week and delivers explainers right to your inbox.

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