William Shatner

Being an entrepreneur really means dedicating yourself to the thing that you think is important.

And you may fail.

In fact, you have to fail.

Because being an entrepreneur is taking risk, right?

And sometimes it means fail.

And if you're taking risk, you don't know what the outcome is going to be.

And a great deal has to do with luck.

So if you're not lucky this time, gather yourself up.

Try again sooner or later.

If you're smart, if you're aware, you will learn by your mistakes.

And only by making the mistakes can you learn what not to do and what to do.

I think a network would love to have a show as successful as Around the Hornets.

Absolutely.

I think the network...

ESPN, that I've enjoyed working for all these years, should want an expanse of shows, many, many different, they should want many, many different voices, they should want shows to get great ratings, they should want shows to not have controversies, they should want shows, and then they get other shows that could be more performative in some ways, and this show could be more feeling in this way.

You can say this show became one thing or not, too serious, more, more, more, whatever.

less about stars and more about journalists, and we didn't want journalists anymore.

I wanted the show to... I thought there was value in being a differentiator.

23 for the show, yeah.

So as much work as I had done on myself, I was still...