The Best of SBS: 2025 (ft. Patton Oswalt, Tony Reali, Hasan Piker, Josh Johnson, & William Shatner)
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What unique way did the guest honor their late wife?
Kings Network.
I thought it was beautiful that the way that you honored your late wife, super unique to be able, I mean, to catch it, to help catch a serial killer.
I mean, all I did was shepherd that. I mean, I handed that book over to an investigator and a journalist and go, please help me do this because I was still so wrecked. and they helped see it through. But she definitely, it was very funny, we all had a lot of laughs watching at the press conference, because she came up with the name, the Golden State Killer. Before that he didn't, and this is gonna sound really sick, but another cop, this guy Paul Holes, was like, yeah, he was never given a cool name, and that does hamper investigations. If there isn't a name that lands with the public, Zodiac, Night Stalker, then sometimes these cases fade away. So when she came up with Golden State Killer, something very evocative and weird and creepy about that name that she came up with, that did help reopen the case.
Now, obviously, yes, other investigators brought that case home. She also did suggest using familial DNA, which they ended up doing, but whatever. But it was very funny to watch them at these press conferences. Someone was like, what about the work of Michelle McNamara? And he was like, Michelle McNamara's work had nothing to do with us catching the Golden State Killer. And we're all like,
How does the naming of criminals impact investigations?
You literally just used the name that helped. Anyway, but yeah. But that was like satisfying for us to watch.
I mean, all of it, I mean, to the degree to find any funny around any of it is a tribute to your ability to find comedy wherever it is it presents itself. But as a way to honor her work and her passion and enter in a new form of entertainment, really, that has just become really popular during dark times, it must have been gratifying to you somewhere in there to be a part of that. However, tangentially, to honor her, something she cared about like that.
Yeah, I just... The thing that I... The thing that I wish was more, that she really wanted to be more focused on, and I'm seeing it in a lot of these, but not in all of them, is what she wanted the focus to be on was the investigators and was the victims, rather than making these serial killers have to be these dark anti-heroes. Serial killers are zilches. The reason that they're killing people is because they're a zilch in life. They're not contributing anything, so I'll take something. So the fact that she was able to do something to put the focus on the people that are trying to bring justice to the powerless, or the voiceless, in this case the dead, or the people that survived, or, you know, survive to testify and and still put themselves at risk with these because a lot of these if you really look at the Ted Bundy case, like the way that he was treated, like, oh, my God, it's so tragic, this bright young guy with a
Could have been a lawyer. He was a fucking idiot.
What role do investigators and victims play in true crime narratives?
He flunked out of every, but he's a good looking white guy. And everyone's like, oh my God, we got, you know. And when the judge sentenced him, he's like, I feel terrible. Like, you know, you just took a wrong path, buddy, but I would have loved to have had you in my court. Like, can you imagine being one of the survivors going, what the fuck is going on here? This guy is getting all the... You know, and his final statement was like, this is like a Greek tragedy, you know, like the wrong guy. You're like, what fucking world are we living in?
Well, what do you make the world we are living in? What do you make of the social commentary that you could form around murder as a podcast form? You know, serial series, mysteries and investigations, all of this dark, dark material for a dark time.
I mean, one of the reasons I think we love mysteries is because at least the ones who have a solution and we can see, oh, there was a form of justice was served here because right now in our world, very blatantly and very in our face and very flagrantly, justice is not being served and evil, opportunistic,
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What unique way did the guest honor their late wife?
0:04–1:48
2
How does the naming of criminals impact investigations?
1:48–3:38
3
What role do investigators and victims play in true crime narratives?
3:38–5:08
4
How does grief influence the ability to find joy again?
5:08–6:56
5
What challenges do content creators face regarding mental health?
6:56–8:19
6
How does the pandemic relate to the epidemic of loneliness?
8:19–9:35
7
What insights did the guest share about their experience in space?
9:35–10:33
8
How can art and storytelling influence societal change?
10:33–50:55
Speakers
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