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ICE's presence hits small businesses in Minnesota

26 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent events prompted CEOs in Minnesota to call for de-escalation?

1.651 - 25.684 David Brancaccio

Business is caught in the immigration crackdown. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. Following deadly shootings by immigration agents in Minnesota, more than 60 CEOs there have now signed and sent a letter calling for federal, state, and local officials to de-escalate. Now, this is a turnabout. Last week here, we had discussed so many Minnesota business leaders staying quiet amid the situation.

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25.664 - 36.754 David Brancaccio

Among the CEOs who put their names on this new letter, William Brown of 3M, Corey Berry of Best Buy, General Mills' Jeff Harmoning, and Target's incoming chief executive, Michael Fidelke.

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Chapter 2: How are small businesses in Minnesota reacting to ICE's presence?

37.392 - 57.74 David Brancaccio

Advocates for stricter border enforcement argue the policies over time could mean better jobs for legal workers, but in Minnesota, some businesses have closed or reduced hours, with employees and customers concerned about getting caught up in raids and protests. Kirstie Marone is a correspondent with Minnesota Public Radio, same company as us. She's been reporting from St.

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57.78 - 65.45 David Brancaccio

Cloud, population 70,000, a city that includes a large Somali-American population. Hi, Kirstie. Hi, David.

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Chapter 3: What challenges are immigrant-focused businesses facing due to ICE activities?

65.53 - 72.276 David Brancaccio

Thanks for having me. You've been going into businesses facing immigration searches and detentions. What are you hearing?

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72.644 - 88.443 Kirstie Marone

The owners I spoke to say they're struggling with two problems. First, businesses that cater to immigrants are seeing fewer customers. People are scared to leave their homes and venture out for fear of being stopped and detained by ICE. I stopped in at New York Gyro, a popular restaurant in St. Cloud.

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Chapter 4: How are business owners adapting their operations in response to ICE raids?

88.924 - 94.11 Kirstie Marone

Usually at lunchtime, it's full of hungry customers craving its halal pita sandwiches and kebabs.

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94.611 - 102.28 Hasib Azam

But last week... As you can see, very slow, very, very slow, especially for the last couple of weeks.

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102.26 - 108.374 Kirstie Marone

That's co-owner Hasib Azam. He told me that the recent ICE activity in St. Cloud is scaring people away.

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108.414 - 118.918 Hasib Azam

We have a lot of mixed customers, like Mexican, Somali, and white. But right now, most of them are white customers. They come, but not Somali, no Mexican, nothing.

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119.05 - 125.139 Kirstie Marone

And the other issue for businesses is that some employees are afraid to come to work, even if they are in the U.S. legally.

Chapter 5: What impact does the recent ICE activity have on customer behavior in restaurants?

125.68 - 131.409 Kirstie Marone

Azam says he and his co-owners are working 12 to 13-hour days just to keep the restaurant going.

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131.429 - 139.962 David Brancaccio

13-hour days. Is that sustainable? I mean, not every business could pull those hours off longer term.

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140.33 - 162.634 Kirstie Marone

That's right. In fact, some have already temporarily closed their doors or reduced hours due to staffing shortages or out of concern for their employees. Restaurants are doing more takeout and delivery orders as fewer customers want to linger for long periods in public places. I visited Star City Mall in St. Cloud. It's a strip mall with several Somali-owned businesses.

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163.054 - 175.415 Kirstie Marone

There's a clinic, a pharmacy, grocery store, several cafes. Dozens of ICE agents clashed with protesters in the mall's parking lot last week. And a few days later, it was noticeably quieter than usual.

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Chapter 6: How are precious metal prices reflecting investor anxieties?

175.435 - 182.79 Kirstie Marone

I met Abde Desani there. He's a Somali-American business owner and also a Democratic candidate for the Minnesota legislature.

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183.091 - 198.493 Abde Desani

I was talking to some of the business people here, and they already see the impact. They see less people showing up to just hang out there, maybe more pickup than sitting down and enjoying their meal or even just socializing with people.

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199.254 - 210.651 Kirstie Marone

And we're also seeing some businesses adapting the way they operate. So at one restaurant in Minneapolis, the blinds are now drawn and the front door is locked, and a volunteer sits inside to open it for customers.

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210.952 - 227.863 David Brancaccio

Minnesota Public Radio reporter Kirstie Marone in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Thank you very much. You're welcome, David. Gold's hit a record high, over $5,100 an ounce now, up 2% today. This means some investors are nervous. Marketplace's Nova Sofo has that.

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228.324 - 248.069 Nova Sofo

Prices for precious metals, especially gold, are up because demand is up. Last year, gold prices rose 64%, the most since 1979. Central banks are buying gold as are traders looking to diversify away from the U.S. dollar, which has weakened against other currencies. Part of this has to do with the Federal Reserve's interest rate cuts.

248.609 - 269.728 Nova Sofo

It also has to do with the higher tariffs imposed by the Trump administration and global uncertainty around trade policies. The VIX volatility index, Wall Street's fear gauge, is up 17 percent just this month. It peaked last week as President Trump was ratcheting up threats over a new trade war with European countries over his desire to acquire Greenland.

270.289 - 274.793 Nova Sofo

He backed off those threats and the VIX fell. I'm Novosafo for Marketplace.

293.133 - 304.848 David Brancaccio

After a weekend where the weather forced many to skate and to slide, let's turn to the business of the Winter Olympics, which begin February the 6th in northern Italy. Here's Marketplace's Kimberly Adams.

305.509 - 322.11 Kimberly Adams

NBCUniversal, which has the rights to air the Olympic and Paralympic Games in the U.S., says it sold out all its advertising slots by early January, setting what the company calls a new ad sales record. Beth Mihalik teaches corporate communications at Penn State Lehigh Valley.

Chapter 7: What economic impact is expected from the upcoming Winter Olympics in 2026?

322.36 - 334.783 Michael Clark

Audiences are really drawn to the allure, to the pageantry, to the stories of triumph and tragedy of the Olympic Games, and brands recognize that.

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334.966 - 345.083 Kimberly Adams

But in terms of economic impact for Olympic host cities, it can be hit or miss. Michael Clark directs the Center for Business and Economic Research at the University of Kentucky.

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345.624 - 356.181 Unknown

When researchers have looked at this, they generally tend to see that the cost associated with hosting the Olympics tends to be considerably higher than the benefits that the cities receive.

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356.38 - 366.941 Kimberly Adams

Early estimates say the Milan-Cortina Games will yield more than $6 billion in economic impact. Kiki Kaplanidou runs the Department of Sports Management at the University of Florida.

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367.542 - 380.037 Kiki Kaplanidou

They are expecting to make a little bit more money than they spend, but not much more compared to if you look at all the expenditure and what goes into building facilities and all that stuff.

380.057 - 389.871 Kimberly Adams

The Winter Olympics will run from February 6th to the 22nd, and the Paralympic Winter Games are starting up March 6th. In Washington, I'm Kimberly Adams for Marketplace.

391.012 - 400.866 David Brancaccio

Curling. That's an honor to be watching. In Los Angeles, I'm David Brancaccio, Marketplace Morning Report. From APM, American Public Media.

403.934 - 426.988 Rima Grace

I'm Rima Grace, and this week on This Is Uncomfortable, fellow podcaster and host of Scamfluencers, Sarah Hagee, joins me to sort out your work drama. We answer your questions about scammy bosses, managing workplace friendships, and co-workers who push boundaries a little too far. I'm going to stay at your place for a bit while I'm breaking up, and obviously I'll need a key.

427.008 - 433.738 Rima Grace

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