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The impact of restricting SNAP benefits

02 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What recent changes have been made to SNAP benefits?

1.567 - 23.2 David Brancaccio

Would you bet that this artificial intelligence balloon will soar even beyond the stratosphere? I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. First, nervous markets this morning. Silver, the commodity, has lost nearly a quarter of its value over the last five days, although there's a small bounce back at the moment. Gold is up a sliver this morning after its biggest one-day drop since the 1980s.

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23.861 - 26.325 David Brancaccio

Marketplace's Nancy Marshall-Genzer is following this.

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26.643 - 45.512 Nancy Marshall-Genzer

Part of the pullback from precious metals is a reaction to President Trump's nomination of Kevin Warsh as chair of the Federal Reserve. Warsh still has to be confirmed by the Senate. He's already served on the Fed's Board of Governors. And Warsh has a track record as an inflation hawk, reluctant to cut interest rates for fear of kindling inflation.

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45.492 - 64.648 Nancy Marshall-Genzer

Warsh's nomination strengthened the dollar, and that made gold and silver less attractive as a safe haven. Oil prices also slid after President Trump said the U.S. may be able to make a deal with Iran, easing concerns of a disruption in Iranian oil supplies. I'm Nancy Marshall-Genzer for Marketplace.

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64.865 - 70.237 David Brancaccio

In effect now, in five states, a ban on using food stamps to buy sugary drinks and junk food.

Chapter 2: How are grocery stores affected by SNAP restrictions?

70.438 - 75.87 David Brancaccio

More than a dozen other states have similar rules on the way. Marketplace's Samantha Fields has an update.

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76.154 - 82.662 Samantha Fields

People who get SNAP have always faced some restrictions on what they can buy, one of the big ones being no hot prepared foods.

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83.162 - 90.13 Unknown

You can't use your SNAP benefit for like a rotisserie chicken at Costco, even though it's a really healthy and efficient way to feed your family.

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90.17 - 98.56 Samantha Fields

Lily Roberts at the Center for American Progress says these new state restrictions are ostensibly about making sure people spend their benefits on healthy foods.

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98.901 - 110.559 Unknown

But I will note that research suggests that the way to get people to But increasingly, states are restricting what people can buy.

110.619 - 117.03 Samantha Fields

Stephanie Johnson at the National Grocers Association says it's proving complicated for retailers to implement.

117.491 - 126.817 Unknown

The good example in Oklahoma is... Granola bars with chocolate chips are in, but granola bars with a chocolate drizzle are out.

127.197 - 140.775 Samantha Fields

That's confusing for store owners and for customers. And Johnson is concerned about what could happen once USDA starts enforcing the new rules. If a store accidentally lets someone use Snap to buy that chocolate-drizzled granola bar.

141.296 - 146.486 Unknown

On your first strike, you get 30 days to correct. On your second strike, you lose your SNAP license.

Chapter 3: What do experts say about the impact of new SNAP rules on recipients?

146.887 - 157.258 Samantha Fields

That would be a big hit, both to stores, which often rely on SNAP revenue, and to people in their communities who use benefits to buy groceries. I'm Samantha Fields for Marketplace.

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174.046 - 196.239 David Brancaccio

An estimated 80% of the rise of the stock market last January through November came from exuberance over artificial intelligence. But even if the technology is the revolution promised, these things are not linear. In the 1880s, building railroads revolutionized the U.S. economy, but many early investors lost their shirts. Dot com from 25 years ago as well.

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196.66 - 203.31 David Brancaccio

But is AI now like the dot com boom then bust? Marketplace's Megan McCarty Carino reports from Silicon Valley.

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203.932 - 213.302 Megan McCarty Carino

I'm on a busy street in Menlo Park, California, looking for some manholes. Paul Vixie is my guide. So we're just going out in the street.

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213.482 - 215.485 Unknown

We're just going out in the street, real briefly.

215.985 - 240.913 Megan McCarty Carino

He's a vice president at AWS Security, but back in the dot-com boom, he was an early internet innovator who helped build fiber optic cable networks under these manholes. Vixie and I were on that street for a history lesson about this current AI boom, with billions being spent on huge, powerful data centers, and whether it echoes the dot-com boom and eventual bust.

Chapter 4: How did the recent decline in gold and silver prices occur?

241.473 - 245.958 Unknown

This is MFN. This is where I worked. And this one is RCN.

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246.779 - 268.67 Megan McCarty Carino

I feel maybe we should move out of the street. We did, after dodging some cars. Back in the early 2000s, when those cables were being laid, telecommunications companies were also spending billions of dollars to build out fast and reliable Internet infrastructure, betting on bigger returns.

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269.211 - 280.665 Unknown

That was very much the feeling, is we've got to do everything we can within the limits of the law and the laws of physics because that's how the winners and losers are going to sort themselves out.

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281.405 - 285.868 Megan McCarty Carino

And what were the results of that giant building boom of fiber?

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287.576 - 288.883 Unknown

A wave of bankruptcies.

289.505 - 316.795 Megan McCarty Carino

The Federal Communications Commission estimated that by 2007, about two-thirds of the 45 million miles of fiber cables were still unused. But years later, that fiber infrastructure supported streaming, social media, and now AI. How would you describe what you saw in terms of how we ended up with, you know, this fiber glut? And does it relate to our present world?

317.298 - 334.243 Unknown

We now have enough fiber that anybody who wants to do something can do it. And I think all of the investments that were made have ultimately paid off, even if, you know, some of the companies represented on these manhole covers had to go through bankruptcy on the way.

Chapter 5: What parallels exist between the AI boom and the dot-com era?

334.784 - 343.457 Megan McCarty Carino

Yeah, even if in the short term it was too much than they could recoup, ultimately we used it for all kinds of things.

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343.555 - 353.698 Unknown

Yes. So the future is effectively unlimited for what can be done with information, with an information economy in the next 50 years.

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354.219 - 361.395 Megan McCarty Carino

And that's what today's AI companies are betting a whole lot on. I'm Megan McCarty Carino for Marketplace.

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361.561 - 382.506 David Brancaccio

And we try to resist too-clever-by-half marketing, but we failed here. You know, sweethearts, the heart-shaped candies embossed with Valentini lines like Be Mine? This year, a darker turn with a nod to financial insecurity. Sweethearts is mixing in hearts that say things like split rent or share login or carpool. What are they missing?

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382.847 - 402.012 David Brancaccio

My crew came up with staycation, dodge taxes, forego health coverage, work three gigs. Of course, nothing says I love you more than live in mom's basement. Doesn't fit on the heart, I suppose. The sweetheart's people call it love in this economy. I'm David Brancaccio, Marketplace Morning Report.

Chapter 6: What lessons can we learn from the dot-com boom regarding AI investments?

402.032 - 404.275 David Brancaccio

From APM, American Public Media.

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406.516 - 424.845 Rima Grace

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I don't want to have kids who can't speak Arabic or read Arabic. This is the only chance I get to do this, right, when they're really, really young. I won't get another chance to help guide them and help them learn Arabic for the sake of them being connected to this massive heritage that they're inheriting.

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443.527 - 446.53 Rima Grace

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