The surveillance state comes for grocery stores

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What recent events have impacted the community in Altadena?

David Brancaccio 0:01
They say sock some money away in case of emergency, like the California fires one year ago. I'm David Brancaccio in Pasadena, California. This week I've been checking in with my neighbors on my burned street a year after the Hurricane Force firestorm destroyed so much of Altadena, California. This along with the concurrent fire on the coast in and around Pacific Palisades were the costliest fires for property damage anywhere ever destroyed. Today, nurse Pauline, did her house burn or did her house stand in the smoke and the soot? In Pauline Gray's case, the answer is both at the same time. It's late fall of our fire year. People from our block gather in a park on a Sunday for lemonade, iced tea, and burritos donated by Home State, a local eatery.
David Brancaccio 0:52
Pauline Gray owns the property about five addresses from ours, same side of the street.
Pauline Gray 0:57
The carport burnt down and the fence, but the house is still standing.

How did the fire affect local residents and their properties?

Pauline Gray 1:03
My neighbor across the street was instrumental in helping to save my house. And I just put on a new roof. So with the ventilation system, no smoke went in the house.
David Brancaccio 1:15
So what do you have to do there to make it habitable for somebody?
Pauline Gray 1:19
Well, we're in the process of testing to check the dust inside. And the house is going to be 100 years old next year. So I have two windows that I need to upgrade.
David Brancaccio 1:33
And that was, what, a rental property, or do you have family in it?
Pauline Gray 1:36
No, a rental property.
David Brancaccio 1:37
So where do you live then?
Pauline Gray 1:38
0.8 miles from my rental property.
David Brancaccio 1:41
So 0.8, not even a mile.
Pauline Gray 1:43
Not even a mile.
David Brancaccio 1:44
Did that house stand?
Pauline Gray 1:45
No. Everything is gone. All my paintings, my Swarovski crystal, my jewelry I've been having is from the 60s. Everything is gone. Not even a pair of shoes.
David Brancaccio 2:01
What are you thinking of doing?
Pauline Gray 2:02
Rebuilding, yes. I have the architect and the builder and the plans were submitted.
David Brancaccio 2:09
Maybe you'll get them back soon then.
Pauline Gray 2:11
I always say I will. I don't like maybe and I don't like if. If is not a word and but. Those I try to keep out of my vocabulary. I'm very positive.
David Brancaccio 2:22
Do you have a contractor yet?
Pauline Gray 2:24
Yes.

What is the current state of surveillance technology in grocery stores?

Pauline Gray 2:26
I'm ready to go.
David Brancaccio 2:27
So, I mean, how? Insurance or what?
Pauline Gray 2:30
Insurance and if I need to contribute. Yeah, I'm a planner.
David Brancaccio 2:38
Yeah, so maybe you saved.
Pauline Gray 2:40
I did, yeah.
David Brancaccio 2:42
All right, well, we're always doing on my program the importance of savings because you just don't know what life will throw your way.
Pauline Gray 2:48
Pay yourself first. I pay myself 20% of every check I earned.
David Brancaccio 2:56
What type of work do you do?
Pauline Gray 2:57
I'm a neonatal intensive care nurse.
David Brancaccio 3:00
Oh, where? Still?
Pauline Gray 3:02
Huntington Hospital. No, I'm retired.
David Brancaccio 3:04
How long ago did you retire?
Pauline Gray 3:05
Twelve years. I wanted to do this from when I was five years old. When I was 35, I went back to school. Went to LACC, then I went to USC, and I only wanted to take care of children. So I did PEDS in general, then I did PEDS ICU, and then I transferred in 1990 to NICU.
David Brancaccio 3:29
So then, what does 2026 look like?
Pauline Gray 3:32
2026 is going to be a beautiful year because 2025 was not. So, 26 is going to be a good year.
David Brancaccio 3:43
Altadena, California, retired neonatal nurse, homeowner, landlord, and saver, Pauline Gray. I have a new video up now with Teachable Moments from my burned street. It's on, for instance, Instagram. Marketplace APM is the handle.
David Brancaccio 4:07
Stocks of big military contractors are surging this morning in both the U.S.

How are retailers using biometric technology to track shoppers?

David Brancaccio 4:11
and Europe after President Trump yesterday called for a $1.5 trillion U.S. military budget versus $900 billion now. Northrop Grumman up 8.7 percent pre-market trading. Lockheed Martin up 8 percent now. European defense company stocks are also up with Trump talk about acquiring or taking Greenland from Denmark. The supermarket chain Wegmans is using biometric tech to track shoppers movements in stores by identifying their faces. Marketplace's Kristen Schwab reports not just Wegmans.
Kristen Schwab 5:00
Before businesses had cameras to keep an eye on shoplifters, they had notes. John Talbot is a lecturer of marketing at Indiana University.
Unknown 5:08
And they had a book behind a cash register, and they knew who the people were that were high potential for stealing something from the store.
Kristen Schwab 5:18
These days, cameras track eye movements, voice patterns, and gait. Talbot says the technology also helps offer new services to customers, like checkoutless checkout.

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