Marketplace All-in-One
Why Big Tech leaders aligned themselves with White House politics this year
23 Dec 2025
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The year in tech and the Trump administration. From American Public Media, this is Marketplace Tech. I'm Megan McCarty Carino. 2025 kicked off with a memorable image, a who's who of tech leaders front and center at President Donald Trump's inauguration. The realignment of the tech industry and the Trump administration went both ways, mostly.
The president advocated for the build-out of AI infrastructure, signed an executive order putting a moratorium on state-level AI regulation. But he also added a $100,000 fee to petitions for H-1B visas, widely used in the tech sector. Here to review the year in tech and Trump is Suyash Pasi.
He's a research analyst and editor at the nonprofit Human Rights Research Center, and he's been following this shift. I think there was a sort of web of incentives and disincentives. And for some tech leaders and tech companies, I think their move was to sort of just comply with the Trump administration's changes. There's also been just a greater emphasis on deregulation.
And there's other tech adjacent or tech industries that sort of were lost at the wayside under the Biden administration. that have sort of risen to prominence again, crypto being one of the big ones. And there's been a big push for just more libertarian DI exclusive policies this year.
What has tech gotten out of this closer relationship between, you know, some of the leaders of the industry and the Trump administration? So it really depends on which leader you're talking about. So I think the broad consensus is that the tech leaders certainly need to be
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Chapter 2: What was the significance of tech leaders at Trump's inauguration?
more agreeable to the government, to the federal government than ever than they have been in the past. Even a couple of months ago, you saw people like Bill Gates having dinner and other tech leaders having dinner with Trump. I believe that was mostly because he wanted to sort of push for some form of rollback on the USAID cuts. So I think a lot of tech leaders, I think, recognize the only
way they can get something out of the administration, it seems like at the moment, is to placate the administration. I think for AI companies, though, there has been an immediate benefit. You can see sort of greater deregulation. You can see Trump wanting to pass the executive order where the federal government basically puts a moratorium on AI regulations so that state governments can't have
a say in how AI companies are regulated. So there is, I think, for AI, a more specific benefit. But the broader culture, I think, is more about agreeing with what the administration is saying, more so than administrations in the past. One issue where I think we've seen sort of a cleavage between the tech right and the Trump administration is on immigration.
How has that played out for the tech industry? So yes, there has been a clear division between sort of the more protectionist MAGA, Steve Bannon faction and Musk, as we've seen, of course, earlier this year. And that has sort of escalated and de-escalated and escalated once again.
Chapter 3: How has the Trump administration influenced AI infrastructure?
There doesn't seem to be a very overt push for for immigration one way or the other. Trump, of course, recently approved worker visas from China. That, of course, caused quite a stir within a certain faction of the MAGA movement. The tech leaders are quite incentivized to push for more of these visas, though given the current environment, I don't see any sort of progress one way or the other.
It seems like at the moment there's more of a stalemate I don't think the sort of protectionist MAGA faction will be successful in eliminating H-1Bs. That would be a very major change in just immigration policy in general. But the influence of a lot of these tech leaders has certainly waned in some aspects, Elon, of course, being the most influential.
Chapter 4: What impact did the H-1B visa fee have on the tech sector?
clear example, but I think it will mostly stay close to the same as it always has been. Even during the earlier spat a couple of months ago, Trump very strategically stayed away from the whole issue until the very end where he sort of said that, oh, H-1Bs have value and we should keep them. But that was pretty much his whole contribution in that whole debate.
So I think this will sort of continue to be the case. I don't see any huge changes coming in the immigration policy for high-skilled workers, at least, anytime soon. We'll be right back. You're listening to Marketplace Tech. I'm Megan McCarty Carino. We're back with Suyash Pasi, a research analyst and editor at the nonprofit Human Rights Research Center.
Has this realignment in the tech industry changed at all the kinds of innovation we're seeing coming from tech companies or, you know, the sort of emphasis within tech companies? Right. I think to a certain extent, yes. I think AI, regardless of sort of how the tech culture would have been, even if it were more left-leaning, AI would have still been an incredibly important piece of technology.
It is incredibly important economically and strategically. So there is a sort of greater emphasis for AI deregulation in And this, I think, aligns with really broadly a lot of these tech leaders and their personal ideologies as well. But not all factions within the MAGA movement agree with that.
And the moratorium might be one of those big things that will impact which direction AI technology takes in the future. It seems like there's also been a shift in the prominence of military tech, government tech. We've seen companies like Palantir become more important as a partner to the government. And big tech companies seem to have become more open to defense and government partnerships. Yes.
I mean, AI being deal use, I think. makes it really easy to focus on sort of military tech as well. I think there are people who will recognize even with the ongoing conflict with Ukraine and Russia, there's a recognition I think that the US is quite far behind in military technology like drones. For drone tech, really China has pretty much all the components you need
For just mass production of drones, they have the manufacturing capacity. They have the ability to make those relatively low-cost, low-tech chips. They have the existing plastic mold-making manufacturing as well. These are things that the U.S. just does not have to the same extent as China does.
So I can sort of see a greater emphasis on military tech with respect to what has been going on globally. But I think there's an interesting intersection between sort of the more protectionist stance that the Trump administration has had when it comes to global affairs
and military tech, it is possible that there will be people who are not going to be enthused if there is a greater push for military tech. It is entirely possible that there are factions who will be more interested in technology that will be more beneficial to the American people versus technology that might get, as people might say, get America involved in endless wars.
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