Worlds apart on generative AI use

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David Brancaccio 0:01
We're watching financial markets on what could be an especially volatile news day for bonds, stocks and currencies. I'm David Brancaccio in Los Angeles. A U.S. president talking about taking a piece of a NATO country by force, Greenland, is part of the uncertainty that knocked the Dow Jones Industrial Average down 870 points yesterday, one and three quarters of a percent. The S&P fell 2.1 percent. The Nasdaq yesterday lost 2.4 percent. I spoke this morning to Russ Mould, investment director at the U.K.-based investment firm A.J. Bell.
Russ Mould 0:33
To be fair, they're not very good at measuring geopolitical activity or risk because it's really, really hard to quantify and second guess what's going to come next. But we've certainly had a very soft start to the week after the American Martin Luther King Day on Monday. We've had the U.S. market start the week in the red. And Asian and European markets have lost some of the momentum that they had this year and they're in the red again today.
David Brancaccio 0:56
There is a sense of uncertainty that even our pros with all their – Market screens and information that they digest can't fully parse.
Russ Mould 1:07
One of the most intriguing things in the final quarter of last year and the early stages of this year was the word tariff wasn't really being discussed by stock market or bond market strategists anymore. They felt that we knew where they stood with that, where markets stood with that, that the possible effects were factored in. And now this conversation is starting again, which again I think is another reason why we have markets losing a bit of that early year positive momentum.
David Brancaccio 1:27
Now, I assume you're going to be paying close attention to markets as the live feed comes in from Davos, where President Trump is due to speak. It looks like it's going to be late now because he had to change airplanes. But that could shove markets to and fro.
Russ Mould 1:42
It could. Everybody has to listen to the most powerful leader in the world and the person who ultimately is in charge of the country that's the world's biggest economic engine. It's home to its world's biggest bond market, biggest stock market, and its reserve currency. So what the president has to say always matters. But under these circumstances, yes, given that nobody's quite sure what he's going to say next.
David Brancaccio 2:01
Always good to catch up with Russ Mould. He's investment director at AJ Bell out of the UK. Thank you so much. Thank you. Yesterday, U.S. and global bond markets also took a dive, with some traders talking of a return to what some have dubbed the sell America trading strategy. The U.S. 10-year interest rate at one point was at its highest level in nearly five months. Those interest rates have eased slightly this morning, 4.28 percent on the 10-year. U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant said he was, quote, unconcerned about that bond market sell-off. Besant also labeled as irrelevant news a Danish pension fund will sell $100 million in U.S. treasuries, given Trump's Greenland aspirations. Now, the Topics Index in Tokyo fell 1% today with a sudden general election call there.
David Brancaccio 2:49
Germany's down 0.6% now. NASDAQ futures here are down slightly. S&P futures are up by less than 0.1% now. The U.S. Supreme Court is set to hear arguments today in the case of Lisa Cook. The Fed governor, President Trump, is trying to fire. Fed Chair Jerome Powell will reportedly be in the room. Marketplace's Nancy Marshall-Genzer has more.
Nancy Marshall-Genzer 3:10
Powell's visit to the Supreme Court would be highly unusual, but he wouldn't be the first Fed chair to attend oral arguments there. Former Chair Paul Volcker sat in the gallery for a case back in the 1980s. The Associated Press is reporting that Powell will attend Cook's case, which is about the ability of a president to fire a member of the Fed's Board of Governors. The Trump administration is accusing Lisa Cook of mortgage fraud. She denies the allegations. Powell's expected appearance at the court today is part of the Fed chair's new approach toward President Trump. For months, Powell generally refused to comment as President Trump

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