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Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast

Ep 534 - Outlive (feat. Peter Attia)

Thu, 05 Dec 2024

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Support the D.A.W.G.Z. @ patreon.com/MSsecretpod Read Peter's Book  'Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity' and Listen to The Drive Podcast @ https://peterattiamd.com/ Go See Matt Live @ mattmccusker.com/dates Go See Shane Live @ shanemgillis.com yo0o00o. Bonus ep for you guys. Surprise. Matt hit the podiums w/ Dr. Peter Attia. Check out his book 'Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity' and listen to his pod The Drive Podcast. Also say a prayer for Matt's A1Cs (he just got diagnosed with pre-diabetes). Please enjoy. God Bless.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is the background of Dr. Peter Attia?

0.169 - 20.608 Matt McCusker

wow wow wes dr peter atia dude thank you for coming thank you for doing this um thank you for doing this i'm really i'm really pumped i read your book so i'm kind of familiar thank you so much i kind of like what you're about thanks for having me thanks for doing the podcast um and i guess i'll give you an introduction and correct me if anything if i'm wrong you were a medical doctor and you did cancer surgery right

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21.255 - 40.044 Matt McCusker

A general surgery with a focus on cancer. With a focus on cancer. And then you just kind of... I liked your origin story a lot. So from what I remember in your book, you did this big swim. It was like a marathon swim or something. And how far did you swim? It was about 21 miles. That's insane. So you did a 21-mile swim.

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40.324 - 43.845 Matt McCusker

And then, if I remember correctly, you were eating a cheeseburger in celebration.

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44.746 - 49.207 Dr. Peter Attia

Oh, actually, that was a slightly longer swim. But yes, now I know the story you're talking about.

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49.327 - 53.509 Matt McCusker

Yeah, that honestly, dude, that made me laugh so hard that you did like a what?

53.569 - 55.77 Dr. Peter Attia

I think that was like 25 miles or something.

55.79 - 69.14 Matt McCusker

25-mile swim. You go out to have a cheeseburger and I believe a Coca-Cola. Yeah. And your wife more or less was like, you're fat. Yeah. Dude, that's the best. And then you, it launched you and then you just got the ultimate revenge and started like a super successful business.

70.622 - 75.969 Dr. Peter Attia

How do you feel about that? She was very sweet. She said, she just, she didn't say your fat. She goes, you need to work on being less, not thin.

78.097 - 85.181 Matt McCusker

That's worse, though. I'd rather someone be like you fat ass and be like, you need to be less not thin. But you just swam 25 miles.

Chapter 2: How did Peter Attia's swimming experience influence his career?

247.917 - 262.464 Matt McCusker

Gotcha. I see what you're saying. Yeah, it was like for real joke because I was like dancing in the end zone on my wife because she's she is her biological age. And I'm not rubbing it in, but it was like whatever. And I was like, I'm five years older than her. So I was like her peer biologically. And I was laughing.

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262.484 - 270.409 Dr. Peter Attia

These biologic clocks things are such a scam. It is incredible. I love it. No, I love it. I love it. It's brilliant marketing. It is.

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270.429 - 287.556 Matt McCusker

It's brilliant marketing. I woke up one day and I went like I lost half a year of my biological age. I was like, what the fuck did I do? I went into a panic. But yeah, so that was like a real revelation for me. I was like, holy shit, man, because my dad has type 2 diabetes. And I was like, yeah, that's on him. He eats ice cream all the time. I'm healthy. And I got my blood working.

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287.576 - 292.182 Matt McCusker

I was like, son of a bitch. By the way, I'm just breaking this right now. This is breaking news.

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292.262 - 294.826 Dr. Peter Attia

This is breaking news. This is so timely.

295.597 - 305.963 Matt McCusker

And I was actually, it is very timely. And I have been leveraging it emotionally in my household, which is nice. Anytime my wife bothers me, I'm like, dude, I have prediabetes. This cortisol is going to mess up my insulin.

306.644 - 324.817 Dr. Peter Attia

I got a text message literally on the way over here from a buddy who just got a vasectomy yesterday. And we had recommended the urologist to him who was going to do it. So he goes, look, I just want to tell you, man, literally the best experience ever. The guy was incredible. So funny. You know, he's got me draped like over the table.

324.857 - 327.819 Dr. Peter Attia

So like, you know, he's like there's a drape like I'm laying on my back.

327.839 - 329.861 Matt McCusker

Like a C-section. They do like it. They don't let you see.

Chapter 3: What does pre-diabetes mean and how can it affect health?

1607.478 - 1631.544 Dr. Peter Attia

here's precision supplements for you and you alone how do you think they're like how much of that is kind of generic and do you think some of those companies are really dialed in or like um i i don't doubt that there are ways to kind of sort of optimize supplements around biomarkers um i just i'm not sure that it's as precise as people want to believe i certainly don't think that

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1633.371 - 1655.225 Dr. Peter Attia

I actually think you can do a lot of supplement optimization off really basic blood work. Certainly, a stool sample is not necessary because most probiotics can't even provide the bacteria you need to impact it. I mean, your diet has a far greater role. Your fiber content has a far greater role on your gut biome and things that you'd be measuring in stool.

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1655.925 - 1675.336 Dr. Peter Attia

Um, and obviously saliva, blood, urine can measure things that are relevant and interesting. Um, there aren't that many things that I think are worth taking. Like I think, yeah, if you're low in vitamin D and you're not getting enough sunlight, that makes sense, but that's a pretty simple blood test. If your homocysteine is elevated, um, yeah, you probably should take some methylated B vitamins.

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1675.436 - 1691.983 Dr. Peter Attia

And if you drop it by more than five or six points, you're probably doing a lot. If you're Omega levels are low. Fish oil probably helps if you're not willing to eat three servings of fish a week. Right. But the true basics of this are really simple. And then there's other supplements that probably make sense for most people. And you don't even need to test for them.

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1692.003 - 1706.53 Dr. Peter Attia

Like anybody who's active could probably justify taking creatine. Yeah. And there's no blood test that's going to tell you whether or not you need it. We just know that, you know, to fill and saturate total body stores, you're going to need three to five grams per day. Yeah.

1707.49 - 1719.535 Matt McCusker

Really? That was surprising. That was something I heard in college years ago when I'd lift weights. Creatine was almost viewed as a serious bodybuilder supplement. Now everything I read is like, no, everyone needs a ton of creatine.

1719.595 - 1740.125 Dr. Peter Attia

Yeah. Again, it's just if you're playing the game of optimizing... you're going to get a benefit, probably about a 10% boost in performance for intensity and like super short intensity, i.e. the creatine phosphate energy system. So kind of like high bursts of, you know, 10 second work and then anaerobic stuff.

1740.406 - 1749.03 Dr. Peter Attia

It's not going to improve much aerobically, but, and you'll also get a little hypertrophy benefit because the muscles will get bigger when they bring more water. That makes sense.

1749.25 - 1753.313 Matt McCusker

Yeah. If like my kids are like seven feet away and they're not listening, I could just Fucking run at them.

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