Matt Beall Podcast
Mars Pyramids, Artifacts & UFOs Explained | #92 Brian Cory Dobbs (Director, Blue Planet Red)
19 Feb 2026
Chapter 1: What anomalies on Mars are discussed at the beginning?
NASA is pretending like they haven't discovered structures, pyramids, ruins, UFOs. And then answering that question, what turns a blue planet red? Because that introduces some really frightening stuff. So if it used to be a blue planet, is it completely unreasonable to think that it might have given rise to life?
So if we're taking this and freaking out about it here on Earth, are we going to look at that and be like, oh, that's different because it's on Mars? The interior portion of this face is designated by repeated expressions of geometric regularity. Three, four, five right triangles.
What are the chances that a five-sided figure with repeated expressions of 30, 60, 90 is 12 miles away from something else that looks like a face? We see stone circles on Mars. You can see that there is nothing else around it. The Xenon 129 anomaly indicates a massive thermonuclear detonation that had completely ignited the atmosphere and destroyed the life on that planet.
So we know that this scar is not the product of any conventional natural explanation. It is the product of...
Would a good place to kind of kick it off be just an understanding of Mars as a whole and maybe what it was like in the past? Yes, perfect.
NASA confirmed water on Mars in 1976. Every time you see a news headline that says NASA found water on Mars, guys, this is yesterday's news. This is nothing new. Okay, we need to get over the fact that that we're discovering water on Mars. It's been there. The polar ice caps, you can see with just a normal telescope, okay, most of it is H2O. Some of it is carbon dioxide, but most of it is H2O.
There's water on most. Now, most of it is in the form of ice, but that's still very important when we get into the microbial discussion because microbes, there are certain types of microbes that can live directly on ice. So Mars is red now. Mars used to be a blue planet. So if it used to be a blue planet, is it completely unreasonable to think that it might have given rise to life?
Are we definitive that it used to be a blue planet?
Even mainstream academia now accepts this. In 1986, Dr. John Brandenburg, plasma physicist, was the first to propose the Mars ocean hypothesis. He was laughed out of the room. But if you go on Wikipedia today, he's got the first citation for Mars Ocean Hypothesis. So it's taken decades, but now everyone in the planetary science community accepts that Mars used to be a blue planet.
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Chapter 2: How is the Face on Mars characterized?
Proof meaning conclusive of. Now sometimes you can have conclusive evidence. We now know, let's talk about proof. There's water on Mars, like we just talked about. The Mars sky... Ryan, while I'm discussing this, if it's at all possible to try to pull up one of those rover images that show a really red, barren landscape. There we go. This is what you see most of the time. A desolate landscape.
Okay? Unfortunately, for the past 40 years, for reasons we can only speculate, NASA has been artificially tinting their photos of Mars red. Now, they've since corrected this. So if you look at a rover photograph today, that was probably taken a few years ago. Ryan, there's another photograph in here somewhere that will show Mars actually has blue skies.
And just right there, for me, they've lost all credibility and all believability. I mean, in terms of trusting these people with telling us anything about the truth. I mean, the fact that they've been photoshopping images, and this is proven that they've photoshopped images for decades. I mean, going back decades that they've been doing this is like...
you know, just transparency, honesty, you know, and it's just, it's so frustrating what they've done in the past. And I can't wait to get into some of that. But yeah, I mean, why? Why have they, what's their, have they ever addressed why they've been creating fake images and feeding them to the public?
No, of course not. Leaving us to only speculate. I was speaking with Ron Levin, who was the son of Dr. Gillivan, who was part of the Viking program. The Viking mission of 1976, they actually sent two orbiters and two landers there. It's one of the most... It's one of NASA's greatest missions, most accomplished missions that most kids today have no idea about.
But anyway, they send these two landers to Mars in 1976. It works flawlessly. That's 50 years ago, man. They start beaming back images, and in the NASA control room, Ron Levin is relaying the story because he was in his 20s at the time, accompanying his father to work at NASA headquarters on the Viking mission.
And just so we have the monitor here, they have the monitors there, and they're beaming back images, and they're seeing blue skies. They weren't expecting that. And everyone in the room is stunned, and they're not sure what to do about it because it's like this awkward moment. Like, ooh, that kind of looks like Earth, right?
And for whatever reason, one of the technicians was ordered to start going around these analog monitors and adjusting the color to make it appear more red. And that's where it started. It started immediately. So Ron Levin went and changed it all back. And then he got in trouble, and so they had to change it all back. And the question is why? And so they've been doing that ever since.
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Chapter 3: What evidence supports the idea of water on Mars?
Now, they stopped it recently, which is good. Mars isn't actually as red as we think it is. The term sticks. It's easy to say, like a redhead, red planet. It's fine. I'll still call it a red planet. But it's much more Earth-like. Yeah, in terms of, because that could easily be here on Earth.
So if, now we use these terms like... And they have produced images that were taken on Earth that they've said were from Mars, right?
That, I'm not sure about. Okay. I see a lot of that stuff online. Okay. I haven't really taken that stuff seriously.
Okay.
I don't know if there's something to it or not, but I'm assuming NASA did send landers and rovers... Oh, for sure, for sure. ...to Mars, and that these...
Yeah.
Are legitimate photographs.
Yeah, I agree. I agree. I just thought I was fairly convinced that by another guest that there were photographs that NASA also released that were taken from Earth that were supposedly Mars photos. But when you zoom in, you see these little animals hiding behind rocks and you see... You can see the Photoshop within the photo itself and with the sky changing color and whatnot.
And they say that it's this spot, I think in Canada or something. Devon Island, people like to talk about.
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of geometric structures on Mars?
Mm-mm. You know? I mean, there's nothing else like it in the area. Yeah. A lot of round cylinders, like, and it's just weird.
I mean.
Right.
Yeah. Yeah, it's weird.
So I had another guy, his name is Tim Saunders, who is an engineer. He designs yachts for a living. And he took a look at this because he's just curious like the rest of us. And he's like, I think I can reverse engineer that. And he did.
And he did this amazing 3D representation of it and showing the symmetry, showing... He has to... When he designs yachts, he's like, I can't just draw lines and shapes. I got to know if I can build this thing out of raw materials and things will fit together. And so he had to know how this thing fit together.
And so we actually do have a few slightly different angles of this that he was able to incorporate in his reverse engineering project.
to and if you want to see more of this i have a you know a film you guys are aware of that actually shows his methods and shows step by step how he did it and him talking about it and his uh wonderful british accent and it just is so odd and all we're asking for is to get a closer look at this because that to me now
Why does it look like... See, if we're entertaining this idea that it could be an artifact, perhaps some metallic alloy or something, why the heck does it look like rock-like material? Metal, when exposed to carbon dioxide, will corrode and start to look kind of like rocky, flaky material. Ryan, we have an image there of what this next would look like. So this is carbon dioxide corrosion.
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Chapter 5: What are the implications of the DNM Pyramid on Mars?
Yeah. Why would I be in a room full of skeptics? That'd be a waste of time. It sounds miserable.
So 12 miles away, there's this other feature that is a five-sided pyramid. Yeah. There is no other way of describing it. It is called the DNM Pyramid. NASA even refers to it as the DNM Pyramid for the people who found it, DiPietro and Molinar. And they found this five-sided pyramid. It's huge, man. Things on Mars are very large.
Chapter 6: How does the geometry of Martian structures suggest artificiality?
These structures are a mile or two big on average, okay? So we have this thing. And it kind of looks like a starfish, upside down starfish.
Upside down, it almost looks like it could be the head on the top and then the two legs coming down and then two arms extending or something. Because there's a little bit of a torso in there, too, almost.
We have different angles of it here. Yeah, that one. Ryan, if you just go to the next couple of slides, this is seeing it from the left side. Now, the upper portion is actually flat. That doesn't really count. But this right side is... either eroded or damaged, however you want to characterize it. Okay, now keep going, Ryan.
And it's damaged on the right side, just like the face is damaged on the right side.
What is this?
So this is Cydonia, and on the upper right you see the face.
Oh, I see it now.
And on the lower left you see the pyramid, and on each side they're both aligned in the same direction, both damaged on the right side. So I just find that curious. Don't spend a lot of time on that. But if you take a look at it from a different angle here, you can kind of see it has this starfish-like quality to it.
And you can clearly see, when compared to volcanoes on Mars, this looks nothing like a volcano. Right, right. Now, if we're identifying signs of intelligence here, if we bifurcate this, if we just split this thing in half... Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, here we go. You can clearly see there are repeated expressions of geometry. Geometric regularity. This is what Carl Sagan is talking about.
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Chapter 7: What evidence exists for a nuclear event on Mars?
Yeah. You can see the lines there. Okay. If this thing's a million years old, a billion years old, I don't know.
Might have some erosion.
Exactly. I'm not worried that it's not pristine, but what are the chances that a five-sided figure with repeated expressions of 30, 60, 90 angles, internal angles, is 12 miles away from something else that looks like a face? Just kind of strange. It looks nothing like a volcano, and it's not part of a mountain range. And next slide, Ryan. If you take each side and mirror it,
And then go forward one. There, Ryan. That red outline is the same for each side. You can mirror the thing, and this thing's over two and a half miles wide. What are the chances that nature has done that?
So I see. Okay, so you can take the right side mirror. Go back and forth, Ryan. And it makes the right image. You can take the left side mirror.
Yeah.
Yep.
It's awfully symmetrical, got repeated expressions of geometry. Oriented in the same way. You know how orientations play an important role in the megalithic structures here on Earth. These things are both oriented in the same way. So this is where the story starts. You had Joe McMoneagle on here, and he remote viewed Mars. Okay.
and he remote viewed one very specific pyramid on Mars, and it's called Crater Pyramid, right? If you can bring that up. This pyramid is directly adjacent to an impact crater. Now this is an old photograph, and we'll see a new one here just in a second, but first let's look at this closely. You see an impact crater which is two and a half miles wide. The pyramid next to it is 1.7 miles wide.
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Chapter 8: How does the conversation conclude regarding Mars' past and its connection to Earth?
Now, we have better photos of this. Ryan, if you look at the next photo, you can clearly see it's not conical. It actually has sides to it. Just look at the shadows. It looks as though it has four triangular sides. next to a crater. What are the odds of that? Really funky. And this was the specific pyramid that Joe McMoneagle looked at.
There's no geological way that the pyramid could have come after the impact.
Well, maybe a volcano sprung up, but does that look like a volcano? Looks like a pyramid. Volcanoes on Mars, Matt, on average, are 100 miles wide. On average. This is 1.7. Now NASA actually does say something about this. They rarely comment on things, but this is one instance where they do. All we get is a title. Ryan, if you can bring up the next slide. I think they have that there.
Yes, they call this a NOB. knob now i looked this up because i had no idea what that meant a knob is a more common name for a came i didn't know what a came is k-a-m-e is essentially a glacial deposit of loose material that's what they say this thing is now if you look at the surrounding area there's nothing else like this right i think i have a slide of the whole area
uh yeah okay you see some craters the surrounding area there's no other structures like this in the surrounding area no so we're supposed to believe that a glacier just deposited something one and a half miles wide with four sides directly adjacent to a crater has the rover been in there to explore No, the rovers don't really go anywhere interesting that we identify in orbiter photographs.
We just get lucky if they happen to photograph some artifact or some anomaly somewhere, but they purposefully don't send them to these interesting places.
So the rover's never been to Cydonia?
Correct.
It's never been to the face on Mars. It's never been to this area. It just kind of drives to the boring area. Does it just do like the same loop kind of over and over again?
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