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Do CRIMINALS Regret Their CRIMES!? (Hilarious, Honest & Emotional)
Wed, 06 Nov 2024
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Chapter 1: What are the regrets of criminals?
To me, I look back on my life, and I see it. all the failures and mistakes and just the shitty things I've done in life. And I didn't realize how bad my conscience was.
I was like six years old and I found a silver dollar. And I knew that if I kept that silver dollar, I could get four video games. I hid my shoes in my mom's car. Because you would have to go to work, and I wouldn't have to go to school the next day. And I could go down to this Italian restaurant in Manassas. And the guys loved me. They'd give me a soda. I was a cute little kid.
They'd give me a soda, and I was going to play video games, and it was going to be cool. So I hid my shoes, and my mom was forced to go to work. My brothers went to school, so I was by myself. And I went down there to play the video games. And as I was playing the video games, an older guy sat down. I'm six years old. It took me like maybe three minutes. Yeah. It was Asteroids.
I was terrible at it. It was fun. And he was like, what's wrong? I was like, well, I didn't record it. He's like, hey, you know, the bums across Streetfall sleep with their wallets. You want to go there and get a couple more dollars? And I was like, yeah, sure. Like, yeah, it made perfect sense that there'd be bums asleep with money at six. And when we walked across the street, there was no bums.
And he went from a really nice, caring guy to a really predatorial, mean. And he was just, he was hard on me. And that's where the fear began for the first time, because even though the event that happened was one thing and that was terrifying. And when I finally thought it was all over and I thought that I was going to, I just wanted to get home. That's all I could think about.
I was like, just let me. And I wasn't thinking I'm going to go tell. I was thinking I want to live. I want to get the fuck out of here. And, um, He made me stop, and he took me there. Like, it's hard to describe. They were white, and it looks like they're like an oil refinery, but in the bottom of these big oil refinery things in Manassas, where the park where we went was just full of sludge.
And he was holding me, like, over it. He's like, if you chime, I'll fucking kill you. I'll leave you in here. Right. And that's what I was like, it's not it's never going to end. Like, I didn't I didn't think that the moment would end. And I just kept crying. That pissed him off and he'd hit me for crying. And I remember because we had to go to like a gate that had just a little opening.
And when I could finally get through that gate and he wasn't pulling me back anymore and he let me go, I was just
it just everything changed in my mind at that point and and i think the biggest regret i have is because i didn't tell like i lied and says like when it came out a little bit i wouldn't say who it was and it only safety because it happened again but with with and i'm not going to say who but but probably the one person i love most on this earth the most beloved person in our family and um
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Chapter 2: How did childhood experiences shape Jason's life?
And we'd go to that, that, that bar that it's not really a bar. It's like a, it was a, like a mobile home inside of a, of a mountain. Right. And you walk in, it's just men and cigarettes. And I could have all the little sodas I wanted. And dad would sit there and drink. We called that going hunting. Right. Taking Jake hunting with me. But in reality, living with him was vastly different.
Vastly different. It was scary. My stepmom thought I was a beating pole for her. Which, it didn't really matter. I didn't care if she hit me. Because it didn't, like, once, you know, remember when they had the paddles? I had a big ego, because when she broke the paddle on me, I thought I was something.
You guys don't know what I'm talking about. No, exactly. My brother and I used to work out all the time. I remember my mom one time got mad at my brother, and she punched him in the shoulder. She hit him in the arm. And she goes, oh! And she hurt her hand. He goes, did you see that? His mom just broke her fingers on my on my bicep. You know, like we were laughing about it. So you moved.
You were with that your father. Oh, yeah, I was with dad. And it just it wasn't working out. So when my brother came to visit a couple of weeks later, I was like, tell mom. Because when I left, she's like, whenever you're ready to come home, just tell Travi. I couldn't tell dad, that would be bad. So I would have to tell Travis when I was ready to come home.
And after a couple of weeks with dad, it was just very depressing there. Everything was different. Going to school there was different. Dad was never home. When he was home, he was mean or drinking. I just didn't want to live there anymore. And I'm a mama's boy. I wanted to be back home. That's all I've ever known.
So I told my little brother, told my mom, and I remember we, you know, because my dad would take us back to Fairfax, either drop Travis off or whatever, and then we'd drive back. And we got back to the trailer, the phone rang. And I swear to God, he looked at me, he said, okay, next Saturday. And hung up, he said, you got your wish. And he didn't speak to me at all that week.
When he dropped me off that next Saturday, he was just like, never asked me for anything again. And that was it. We never spoke again. How old were you? 12. I had a mental breakdown. Jesus. Because that happened in the beginning of the year. So I was getting ready. Oh, I was 11, getting ready to turn 12.
Because when I turned 12 and he didn't want to talk to me or birthday card or anything, my mom called me. She's like, your son's having a mental breakdown. I take him to a psychiatrist. You need to talk to him. No. And I hung up on her. So I never talked to him again. That was it. That was the last time we ever spoke. And it really wasn't even the speaking. Flash forward to 15. I'm the pool boy.
I'm the grill at Army-Navy Country Club. I meet Molly Barnes. She just did her freshman year at Ole Miss. She's the head lifeguard. She's driving a 1989 yellow LX convertible. And I convinced her that, hey, let's hang out one night. And I'm 15. I'm taller than her, but I'm 15. I'm a kid. And she was like, sure. And she was drinking sun-kissed and grain because that's what she drank at school.
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Chapter 3: What led to Jason's first encounter with the law?
I'm like, I can't watch it. Oh, my God. The Cabin. I think it's called The Cabin. Oh, my God. Crying all the way through it. Don't look at me. That's how it was with my wife. No, The Shack. The name of the movie is The Shack. The Shack. I'm like, don't watch it. It's so good, but you are going to cry three or four times. It's just brutal. Yeah. My wife will look over and she'll go, are you crying?
No. My eyes are dry. Oh, I like crying now. But it's funny because I've thought about some of this stuff and spoken about some of it. There's other things that hit you. I'm like, man, I didn't. Damn. And you're right. It's up in that shelf. It's been gone for a long time. And it's funny because I think it's important to talk about it because some people don't know that it's okay to cry.
Yeah.
It's okay to remember the past. And I'm not my past today.
Right. I think if you never talk about it, then you never it never helps to change you or to deal with that. And then you just, you know, that may be the reason that you have such emotional issues to begin with, because you've never talked about it or thought about it or, you know, worked your way through it, which is all sounds like like like psychology bullshit to me. Some Freudian. It does.
It does. But it's true. It's. You know what I'm saying? It's like advice that I give people. I would say like when if some young kid calls me or talks to me or says, you know, and I'm like, what do you think I should do? And I'm like, oh, I think you should do this. And I'm sitting there thinking this is the same advice that my father would give you. Why hasn't anybody told you?
Like, I'm not telling you anything remarkable, but, you know, but the truth is it's, it's, it sounds silly and it sounds, you know what I'm saying? It sounds like dad advice, but that dad advice from a regular dad, you know, is, you know what I'm saying?
It's sound advice.
It's just that people don't say it and they don't do it and they don't think about it. And, you know, it has to be said. And sometimes it's the messenger that says it.
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Chapter 4: How did family dynamics affect Jason's decisions?
Just that he came out. I was purple. They called the paramedics. The paramedics came. And Molly, story wasn't coming to see me. He called Molly because he knew Molly. And she came in. And from what they told me, the doctor was like, why isn't his family here? He's not coming out of it. He has a heart. He's in a coma. He's touch and go. We don't think he's going to make it.
His family needs to come in and say goodbye. That's what they told me the doctor said. That's why she contacted my mom. Right. And that was the first time I, like, I wouldn't really call it. I'm not trying to get, I'm not religious by any stretch of the imagination. But I came to with my mom holding my hand praying. That's how I came out with mama.
She was saying goodbye, holding my hand, and she was praying. And that's when I came out. I saw her, and I thought, damn, am I dead? And I wasn't. And then it just got worse from there.
Well, you keep saying that, bro. So what?
So you woke up out of the coma after 12 days and they kept me in a psych ward for about a week. But nobody wanted me like I didn't have anywhere to go. And all I could think is I want to get out of here and get back to what I was doing. I remember yelling at my mom. She came into the psych ward to see me, and I'm cussing her out.
I'm like, I was in the cosmos, happy, and you had to go bring me into this world. I hate you. And this is what I did for the person that loves me, has been trying to save me, and she's just bawling at it. You know, it's funny because I was in so much pain, I couldn't see anybody else's pain. I didn't see how anything I did affected anybody else.
But now that I look back on it, I'm like, man, who the fuck talks to their mom that way?
But it was just, I was very sick at the time. It's that addict, that addict behavior. And, you know, you're around enough of them, you can see it now immediately. It's that entitlement.
The victim mentality. Yeah, yeah. If you had my, but... It got worse. I started robbing drug dealers in D.C., getting shot at, pistol-whipped, beaten. And I was 20.
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Chapter 5: What was the turning point in Jason's life?
There are guys in Coleman who'd been locked up, whatever, 20, 30 years, and they'd literally watched soap operas every day. They'd never missed. They'd watched them nonstop. And they called them their girls. That's my girl. Yeah. Oh, it's crazy.
They know everything about every character, and they can tell you what character has died off, and they brought them back as another character, and they know the show's inside and out. Or you'd see guys that are like, 40, 50 years old men who'd been locked up 20, 30 years, and they're knitting. They would knit.
You ever see the old guys that knit? We didn't have knitting then. You were in feds. Bro, are you knitting? Before we went to Augusta to get to Sussex, when I met Buzz, Moneymaker, Big Youngin, and my name's Jason. And in prison, there's me and Jason. So we'd be playing cards all the time. I don't think that was grammatically correct. We'd be playing cards.
We were playing cards and you would hear Jay. And so Buzz, and then we get like, hey, we need a new name for you. You can't be Jason in here. And I was like, okay. And he was like, what's your favorite book? I was like, The Outsiders. He's like, pick a character. At first I said Ponyboy, but he's like, there's already a Ponyboy in the system. I was like, Soda Pop. He's the middle kid.
He's good looking. He can fight. I fit the criteria. He's like, bet your Soda Pop now. So when I went to Augusta, Buzz had been down 12 years. I'd only been down a couple of years at this point, four years, maybe five years in total. And so when we went to Augusta, we went together, like one day apart. And he knew everybody there. He knew Zach, Tweedy, Capone, and all the guys there.
And my boy, Josh. I loved it. Love Josh. Can't say his name, but love Josh. So when we got there, he introduced me to Soda Pop. But, you know, just kind of was like, all right, so that's Soda Pop. And my name, I became famous in Augusta, not in prison, but kind of in the Virginia system. Soda Pop became famous because Josh is my best friend and we live in the same cell together.
We'd already done some things. We kind of had a cool reputation, but he wanted to go to the dining hall and I'd rather meal. My mom made sure I stayed with money because I didn't need hardly any commissary. I mean, anything from the,
the kitchen i left it less of his breakfast i'd always eat commissary but he wants it it's spaghetti so we're going to the dining hall i'm like man spaghetti day i didn't want to go because on sundays it's flooded you only get two meals you get brunch and dinner and and on the weekends the dining halls are flooded and i didn't want to go but he's like he wanted i was like all right i'll give you my tray sit with you and then we'll come back
Because we were never separate. And Josh and I, we're never separate. So we go there and it's just flooded. And so Billy Red, these are just four white guys that we knew, Billy Red, Scully, I think it was Billy Johnson and Brent Smith, saw that we were milling around looking for a place to sit. And they go, yo, Pop, Josh.
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