Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast
Inside the Mind of a Fraudster Who Outsmarted the System | David Srail
30 Jan 2025
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So I was just going to the racetrack, basically. And so this guy sitting in the corner didn't bug us, really played it cool. And that's what a con man needs to do, kind of worked his way in. But we noticed he was a pretty good handicapper. He would pick some winners, and if he won, he would buy us a round of drinks.
And Dave's like, hey, why don't you come move in with me and get a job where I work? I had mentioned something about watching the Kentucky Derby because that's my thing. I'm into horse racing. And Dave said, hey, at work, don't mention horse racing. Okay, so that was the only really thing that made me hesitate early on.
And I'd see him talking to people, but everybody was Dave's friend at the office. This guy, everybody loved him. He had scams that he was working on, but I didn't know it at the time. So one Saturday, I'm at home. Mail goes through the slot. And it's his Bank of America statement. I opened it.
Hey, this is Matt Cox, and I'm going to be doing an interview with Dave Wheelhauer, and we're going to be talking about a con man. So check out the video.
Dave, how are you?
I'm good. I'm good. I got a little story to tell you. I know. So you contacted me. You said, hey, man, listen, I know this guy. He was a con man. This is an insane story. And then we talked on the phone a couple of times. And you like you're not obviously the con man, but you were you ended up living with this guy and you were friends with him for how long?
I lived with him for six months. Right. And I saw kind of watch the whole thing unfold. I saw the tragic end when he skipped town in the end, but we'll get to that. But I just saw the way he manipulated people, and it's a pretty amazing story. And this guy had known these people for six, seven years, so it's not like some guy that just came in someone's life.
But he was a con man, and he was setting them all up in a long con.
What happened? One, did you ever find out... Had he ever done this before? He'd done it before. Right. And then what? So then he comes into town. And he darts over. He moves to Florida. Where had he lived before? Cleveland, Ohio. And he'd done it in Cleveland. Yes. What had he done there?
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