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He was arrested for writing bad bank notes, selling magic rocks and crystals. He was a con artist. This is literally how every cult starts. Every cult is started by... So I was born into a very devout Mormon family. My parents are still devout. Some of my sisters are still devout. Most of my cousins and aunts and uncles and everyone else is still devout.
So when I left, it caused a little bit of heartache. But growing up in the church in the 70s and 80s was a lot different than it is now. It's always hard to know how much detail I want to go into. There's a lot of conversation right now in Mormonism about bishops' interviews.
So when you're a kid, you have somebody that is assigned to be when you're a Mormon, you have someone that's assigned to be the bishop of the ward. And it can be like the guy that owns the tire store or the UPS driver. And the church regional directors supposedly are inspired by God to call who they want to be the bishop. And when you're a kid, you have to have bishops interviews.
You have to go in and talk to the bishop and he asks you questions. You're alone with this man in this room who can just be, like I say, a school teacher, you know, anybody. My dad's been a bishop several times. And most of these men are very good men.
I always, it breaks my heart a little bit when I see people really bashing the church because the church is, everyone always focuses on the bad people in every situation. You know that. I don't have to tell you that.
I'm Catholic, so.
A hundred percent. There can be, you know, 10,000 good people and 1,000, people that are not so good, or even a hundred people that are not so good. And that's what gets all the focus. And it's the same way in Mormonism. Well, growing up, I was a wild, kind of a wild child. I've always had a very loud voice. I'm, you know, I sing and I was a performer and I was a little boy crazy.
And the bishops knew that about me. And they knew I was one of those girls that they could maybe ask a You know, that were not appropriate to be asking a child. Some bishops never did this, but I had two in particular from the time I was a little girl until the time I was older that would ask very inappropriate questions. You know, are you kissing boys? Are you using your tongue?
And even farther than that. And they would use the word back then, the word, this word makes my skin crawl. They would use the word petting. Oh, I just hate that word. But that was the word that they use. I don't know if that came from your culture too, but.
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