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McKinsey on Healthcare

The journey to a new tomorrow: A conversation with Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH, President and CEO, Christiana Care Health System

10 Jun 2019

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

7.102 - 18.835 David Nuzum

McKinsey on Healthcare, a podcast series about visionaries, leaders, and problem solvers shaping the future of healthcare. On today's episode, McKinsey partner David Newsom is joined by Janice Nevin.

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As we look ahead to the next five to seven years, what do you see as the biggest changes or disruptions in healthcare that you expect to see?

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27.504 - 57.176 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

The disruptions that I see coming that will be real opportunities for us are in big data. The potential for big data, particularly data that is real-time clinical data, aggregated with claims data, consumer data, will allow us to personalize care, reach out, and potentially impact care impact outcomes before they have happened.

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57.356 - 85.019 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

So I'm excited about the possibility of using data, predictive analytics, artificial intelligence, machine learning to really help us understand what people need to drive that value before they or we may even know that it's coming. The other area where I believe there's some real opportunity for disruption is certainly around some of the new technology that's being developed.

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85.64 - 110.955 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

We've taught Alexa ChristianaCare skills. And I think the opportunity for Alexa to really function, for example, in the home to help prepare people perhaps for surgery or manage their post-op course or perhaps even interact with them on a regular basis to help manage a chronic illness. I think it has a huge potential to really drive care in a different way.

111.716 - 140.146 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

The other piece that I get excited about is the potential of gene editing and particularly the CRISPR technique. In many ways, I think this is an evolution in how we will think about treating illness of the kind that occurred when we discovered antibiotics. And at Christiana Care, we have the only gene editing institute in the country that's embedded in an NCI-designated community cancer center.

140.747 - 163.696 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

So why would the head scientist of the gene editing institute want to be in an organization like Christiana Care? A lot of it's around our mission and our values and behaviors. He wants to be able to interact regularly with the physicians that care for patients with cancer and with the patients themselves.

Chapter 2: What major disruptions in healthcare does Janice Nevin foresee?

164.657 - 183.734 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

So the underlying theme in all of this is we talk about disruptions that will enable us to solve real problems, innovation that has intent behind it, and ultimately the opportunity to really make a difference in the lives of the people we serve.

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You talked about how some of these disruptions would improve outcomes. How do you see these changes impacting patient experience in the way that care is delivered?

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193.064 - 209.789 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

Well, I certainly hope that they will improve the way that patients experience care and the way they experience health. What's happening is the technologies that we talked about are highly used in just about every other aspect of a person's life.

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210.911 - 231.441 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

My daughter, who is 23, gave me a really hard time because she couldn't yet schedule an online appointment with her primary care physician, who happens to be a member of our staff. My 84-year-old mother is adept at using her smartphone.

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232.332 - 259.369 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

I firmly believe that we've got an opportunity to create access and really create an experience that delights people with the emergence of the technology that is so comfortable to people really of all ages. At Christiana Care, we have talked about our journey from hospital system to health system. Success as a hospital was how many people could we get in the front door.

259.855 - 284.14 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

Success as a health system has been how many lives can we manage using data, using care coordination. We will be a system that has the ability to impact the health of all of the people who live in the communities that we serve. And it's creating that experience that will truly deliver health based on these new technologies.

284.621 - 289.626 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

It will be a disruption in a very positive way, and I'm excited about that.

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Thinking about partnerships and the important role they can play, what are some innovative partnerships that are changing the landscape of healthcare?

298.565 - 326.588 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

We're used to seeing announcements about horizontal integration and consolidation. I think what's remarkable in that space is some of the mergers have now become mega mergers, and it'll be very interesting to see how, for example, a 191-bit hospital system creates value. Looking forward to the learning from that. But of course, it's the vertical integration that's getting the most attention.

Chapter 3: How can big data and AI transform patient care?

437.124 - 462.826 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

And it's about working with them to help get patients who are brought to the emergency department repeatedly for substance use overdose. identifying them, partnering with New Castle County, bringing services to the home, and ultimately getting those people into treatment. Very excited about that partnership. I think that there are also ways that we can partner with tech companies.

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463.367 - 488.422 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

We have a partnership with Augmetics. We're using Google Glass to really help our providers manage their the issues that impact their day-to-day existence and really address the whole issue of burnout, which is an enormous problem in healthcare. The Google Glass essentially allows them to have direct eye contact with their patient. It gets them away from the keyboard.

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488.943 - 511.465 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

There's a remote scribe that does the notes for them so that at the end of the day, they've got a minimal amount of electronic health record work to do, and they can go home and be with their families. So lots of different ways that we can partner with community, with payer, and with a variety of tech companies.

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What are your other aspirations for Christiana Care Health System? And how do you believe these will set up the organization for success, given some of the industry shifts we discussed earlier?

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520.996 - 546.473 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

So when I talk about our evolution to being a system that impacts the health of all of the communities we serve, that is our aspiration. And we're uniquely privileged because of our position in the state and in the region that to really be able to have a measurable impact on health. It will require partnership from every corner of the state and certainly also the region.

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We have extraordinary people at Christiana Care.

Chapter 4: What innovative technologies are impacting healthcare delivery?

550.86 - 579.876 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

We're the largest private employer in the state. And I am an absolute believer in the power of our people to not only manage the change that is coming, but to really lead that change. So we've been doing work really over the last year and a half that ultimately has been about engaging our people. There's a lot of evidence that organizations that not only survive but thrive

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580.244 - 600.954 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

in times of uncertainty and change are organizations that deeply connect to their values. A year and a half ago, I said, it's time for us to relook at our values. And I want to do this work in a way that engages every single person in the organization. We have almost 12,000 employees.

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601.515 - 627.092 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

And not only our employees, but our medical dental staff, our junior board, our board and the governance committees, everything. And we did that. It was remarkable. We deployed 400 ambassadors, almost all of them frontline caregivers, people who were selected by their peers, and they helped us manage this process.

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627.072 - 653.264 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

And at the end of the year, we had not only defined our value statement, but we had in fact engaged everyone. The most poignant example of that was I had someone who works in one of our more remote outpatient facilities come up to me and say, thank you for letting me be part of this. It's been the most rewarding thing I have done since I've been at Christiana Care.

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653.805 - 682.493 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

Frankly, I didn't even think you knew we existed. And now I feel part of something. And that was ultimately what this was all about. It's been amazing in the last year since we described our values, how those words are now driving the work that we do. We Serve Together is really our version of teamwork. We were an organization where we had lots of teams and people were

683.266 - 709.358 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

thrilled to be on their team and loved their team, but we were challenged to work across the organization as one team. And we've been able to do that. And I believe it will be through the engagement of all of our people, frontline leaders, community, that we get where we want to be, which is we will be living in a much healthier state and community.

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Do you have any advice for other CEOs who are leading in this environment? In your experience, what has worked well and what would you do differently?

718.901 - 735.379 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

I think it's important to understand that in healthcare, we're in the business of taking care of people. And that's true whether you're a provider, if you're a payer, if you're creating a device. Ultimately, it's going to impact someone's life.

736.186 - 755.21 Janice E. Nevin, MD, MPH

I also think it's really important to engage, developing leaders, bringing in new ways of thinking, allowing people to be innovators, as well as going deeper into the organization and engaging frontline. That's where we have been successful.

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