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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Welcome to Merrin Talks Your Money, the personal finance edition of Merrin Talks Money. In these bonus podcasts, we talk about the best strategies for making the most of your money. I'm Merrin Somset-Webb, and with me, senior reporter and money distilled author, John Stepak. Hi, John. Hi, Merrin.
Right, so last week we answered a big pile of questions or attempted to answer a big pile of questions. We got so many really interesting questions and comments coming into the mailbox, which we really, really appreciate.
So we spoke about a whole load of topics last week, but this week I really wanted to address the whole ISA, LISA, SIPP thing because we did a podcast, you and I, gosh, I can't remember, maybe a few months ago now, where we talked about the LISA, the Lifetime ISA. LISA, LISA, I think everyone ever agrees on that. Anyway.
Whatever it is, the Leisa Lisa, Lifetime Leisa, the one where if you're under 40, you can put, what is it, Ā£4,000 a year and government tops it up by another grant. You get a 25% contribution. And so you can contribute until you're, you can open it until you're 40, contribute until you're 50, I think. And then you can use it to buy a house up to a value of Ā£450,000.
And if you don't do that, you can leave it in and then take it out on retirement, but slightly later than a SIP. So I think at 60, you can then take that money out. And you and I are a bit like, well, I don't know, because you can't take it out until you're 60. So why wouldn't you just use an ordinary SIP?
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Chapter 2: What are ISAs, LISAs, and SIPPs?
He, again, is asking about the same thing. And he says that he thinks that we've been a little down on the Lysa. He said what works for him is that you can take it entirely tax-free at 60 years old, unlike with a SIP, when, of course, you only get 25% tax-free and you have to... You have to pay your marginal rate of income tax on the rest.
So in that sense, he reckons that the LISA is more tax efficient, particularly for lower rate taxpayers than a pension. He also says that he thinks that the tax free status of past contributions to a LISA looks more secure to me than that of a SIP.
So it's less likely to be fiddled with, which I think we might agree with, actually, because we've always said that we think the government will come for ISAs last. Because everyone understands ISAs, everyone gets ISAs and everyone feels their ISAs are very much theirs.
Yeah, it's a smaller port.
Yeah, and Simpsons pensions are a little bit more distant. He also says with serious ill health, you can access your LISA penalty free. And in extremis, you can access the funds anytime with that 25% penalty. Yeah. So, you know, to my mind, this penalty can actually be a good thing for young people using ELISA for retirement savings as it stops them dipping into their pot for holidays, etc.
So in that sense, it's better than an ordinary ISA. And again, OK, I'll give you that. I'll give you that. And finally, he says that non-taxpayers can only pay Ā£2,880 into a SIP, but they can add a further Ā£4,000 into ELISA. Of course, we could say, well, you know, you can put Ā£20,000 into an ordinary ISA, but this does give you that tax back. So, you know, Yeah. OK, I get that.
And by the way, something that wasn't clear on the podcast, although I think I did say it just now, was that the LISA can be opened until you are 40 and once opened, you can contribute until you are 50. So I think good points, particularly for lower rate taxpayers there.
I wouldn't disagree with any of those and I think that's a particularly good point about the political risk of the LISA and also the fact that you can take the whole thing out tax free whenever you're 60 because you only get the 25% lump sum on the SIP.
So yes we were probably a little bit harsh and I just thought the other point that the latter podcast listener made was that if you're paying into a kind of pot for your spouse who's a non-taxpayer or your kids even you can only put 2,880 quid into a SIP which is then grossed up to 3,600 but you could put the full 4k into Eliza and again that's effectively a pension contribution
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Chapter 3: How does a Lifetime ISA (LISA) work?
Yeah. Okay. So we were a little harsh. We were a little harsh. I'm not 100% convinced, but I do take all those points. I do take them. We were a little harsh. Yeah.
I suppose the other issue is our dislike of fiddliness.
Yeah. We hate fiddles. Hate fudge. Hate admin.
There's a slight, and sorry for taking his name in vain, the Martin Lewis-ness about the whole thing of, okay, you need to do it in this order and you need to kind of fill this one up, but don't put too much in this one and then compare the, you know, et cetera, et cetera.
And the element of kind of spending an awful lot of time to say, God, it's terrible to say this, but it's whether you can be bothered is something to take into account here. But doing those are all reasonable points. And these are bigger sums than just switching bank account regularly.
It's not just switching energy provider. If the numbers here are correct, which I'm sure they are because our readers are very, very literate. Ā£34,000. It's a cruise, John. It's many cruises. It's three months on a Disney cruise ship. I gather adult Disney is a thing.
It's really?
Yeah, you just put me right off. It's the Norwegian fuels for us, John. Thanks for that, everybody. Any more comments on lices and ices, do send them in because, you know, obviously this is a naughty issue. But thanks for all those emails.
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Chapter 4: What are the tax benefits of using a LISA?
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Chapter 5: What are the drawbacks of a Lifetime ISA?
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