Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The ego says that you would have been better if you said what you thought. Effective says you said what you said and it worked. Ego makes you try to backtrack to go grab words that you didn't use and effectiveness said you were enough in the moment. And so it's an internal battle that you have to recognize.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplugged, and today we have something very special for you. There are voices that motivate, and then there are voices that move your soul. He's turned pain into purpose and led a generation into transformation. He's not just preaching change, he's living it, and he's living the shift.
Join me in welcoming my pastor, Pastor Keyon Henderson. Pastor Keyon, how are you doing today?
It's such an honor to be here with you. How are you today?
Man, I am the honored one. I am so glad that you took time out of your crazy busy schedule. I know that there are, I would say thousands, but there are millions that you personally touch, but I know that you've got your hands on the people that are close to you. So again, just thank you for taking the time with us today.
You know, somebody told me yesterday and I don't you know, I don't know if it's true. He said, you know, one of the things that I admire most about you, he says, you could be in a room full of people, but you make the person that you're talking to feel like they're the only person in the room. And I looked at him and I said, that's because at that moment they are right.
The only person that matters is the person that you're giving your attention to. So You know, thank God for the thousands of people or the hundreds of thousands of millions, as you say. But for now, my job is to serve you and to serve the people that you have influence with through you. So thank you for allowing me to be here with you.
I appreciate that more than, you know, definitely more than, you know, you know, Pastor Keon, I'll make unplugged. I like to talk about your because that thing that's deeper than your why I call it like your true purpose, right? Like everybody has a why or multiple why's and I could probably guess, right? Your spouse, your kids, your family, your friends are probably your why, right?
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Chapter 2: How does Pastor Keion define the concept of 'because' in leadership?
You don't know what it was supposed to be like. How do you how do you one internally deal with that? Because I need you to coach me on that. Yeah. And then two, how do you coach others about you don't have to be perfect every time?
Yeah. So I've learned that there is a difference between ego and effective. The ego says that you would have been better if you said what you thought. Effective says you said what you said and it worked. Ego makes you try to backtrack to go grab words that you didn't use and effectiveness said you were enough in the moment.
And so it's an internal battle that you have to recognize that you are a divine creature and that you are a human who has prepared themselves for the moment. You've got to trust. I've got to trust. We've got to trust that what comes out of a prepared soul is enough. And perhaps everything that is derived in preparation is not necessary for presentation.
Just because I studied it and gathered it and thought it doesn't necessarily mean it would have worked. I probably would have cheapened the moment had I used unnecessary words that would have only shown people that I was a little more intelligent. And people are not interested in your intelligence, Derek. impressed by your effectiveness.
So I have to tell myself after I get through all of the sympathy sessions and the guilt trips of what I could have said and been better, you know what? I said when I left home, I wanted to help people. If a person told me that they were helped, then the win is their expression and not what I thought I should have done differently.
I needed that. You saw me taking notes. I have some things I'm going to go fix right now.
Yeah, I appreciate that. It's absolutely the truth. You know, not being afraid to let people and not on every case, but not being afraid of letting people be the mirror for you. Like if you keep looking in the mirror at yourself, you're going to find all of the imperfections. You're going to find everything that's wrong.
And only reason why we find what's wrong is because we're comparing it to what somebody else has that we perceive is right. But it might be right for them, but it ain't right for you. What if what if my arms were on your body? That would make you look awkward.
Right.
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Chapter 3: What personal experiences shaped Pastor Keion's leadership journey?
And so it's not about being in the right place as much as it is being the right person in every place. Cause if you're the right person, you can get good out of the wrong place.
See, another one, another one.
You sound like DJ Khaled when you said that, and another one.
Wow. Man, so I'm taking a lot of notes, a lot of things I'm gonna put in. I told you offline, I can't put this book down, The Shift. Right. It is definitely one of my go to's. I have like three or four books aside from the Bible, obviously, that I'm in every day because just like the Bible is a collection of books that most people, most Christians go to daily.
I also think that you can have your own collection of books that you go to on a daily basis. And to me, this is one of them. Right. And so and I mean that sincerely. I mean that genuinely. If people could see the inside of this book, I have a whole bunch of highlights and handwritten notes so much so that I've got another copy on this bookshelf over there, too.
But I had a couple of things down, man, because I can go directly to the source. And I'll tell you, I'm an audio guy. I'm an audio book listener because I'm always traveling. And so I was listening. And. Starting in chapter one, you had something that made me go buy the hard copy of this book. And you said, problems can't be solved by the same mindset that created them.
Brother, when I heard that on the audio book, I literally pulled over. I was driving. I stopped my car. I wrote that down. And I just stayed in thought for 15 minutes on the side of the interstate with that. Because while I probably knew that, I never heard it. And when I heard it, and then when I saw it, I said, wow, that's the key, right?
Problems can't be solved with the same mindset that created them, man. Like, can you break that down for us a little bit?
I'm going to tell you where, can I tell you where I got the concept from? Absolutely. So I was at a, um, a conference and I was the poorest person in the room.
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