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Transform Anxiety into Creative Fuel: Insights from Josh Pais

22 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What unique perspective does Josh Pais bring to overcoming anxiety?

0.031 - 22.447 Mick Hunt

What if I told you that your favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle could help you overcome fear and anxiety? Well, that's what this conversation today with Josh Peist is about. We go into a little bit of the history of him starting acting, but then we go into what he's doing with Committed Impulse, helping people overcome fear and anxiety. And then we end it with his book, Lose Your Mind.

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22.527 - 35.927 Mick Hunt

And we're going to talk about why being back and saying, I'm back. can solve a lot of problems. Ladies and gentlemen, I present my good friend, your favorite Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle, Josh Peiss.

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37.898 - 58.458 Rudy Rush

You're listening to Mick Unplugged, hosted by the one and only Mick Hunt. This is where purpose meets power and stories spark transformation. Mick takes you beyond the motivation and into meaning, helping you discover your because and becoming unstoppable. I'm Rudy Rush, and trust me, you're in the right place. Let's get unplugged.

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62.081 - 63.082 Josh Pais

Josh, how are you doing today, sir?

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Chapter 2: How can fear be transformed into creative fuel?

63.483 - 67.146 Josh Pais

I'm good. I'm good. Better now after that intro.

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67.582 - 75.173 Mick Hunt

You know, I should have also said he is a technical consultant who can fix all technical issues as well. But I don't want that huge bill. So I'm just going to let.

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75.394 - 81.483 Josh Pais

OK, yeah, we had a little glitch to get us going. But yeah, it just bonded us.

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81.503 - 82.985 Mick Hunt

Yeah, there you go.

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Chapter 3: What techniques can enhance presence in high-pressure situations?

83.485 - 103.87 Mick Hunt

Josh, man, again, huge fan of you, of all the body of work that you've done. I mean, the things that you're doing now, I can honestly say I'm really passionate about. And we're going to get into that in this episode, man. But just. Honored to have you on, man. Your body of work. is literally something that others can't say they've done, man.

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104.211 - 107.355 Mick Hunt

Like, I just, I want to give you your flowers while you're here, Josh.

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Chapter 4: How does vulnerability contribute to authentic connections?

107.375 - 108.076 Mick Hunt

Thank you, man.

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108.297 - 111.02 Josh Pais

I really appreciate that. I really appreciate that.

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111.721 - 130.488 Mick Hunt

You know, I always ask my guests about something that I call your because, that thing that's deeper than your why. Like, if I were to say, Josh, what's your why? You tell me. And then I say, well, why are they your why? And you'd usually start that sentence with, well, because A, B, and C. Mm-hmm. I care about the because.

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130.828 - 143.531 Mick Hunt

So if I were to say, Josh, all the crazy cool things that you're doing to to impact society, to give the betterment of people. What's your because? What's your purpose today?

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Chapter 5: What role does neuroscience play in managing emotions?

144.813 - 179.618 Josh Pais

My because is to have people get out of. listening to how screwed up they are to get people out of listening to how they're not good enough, out of listening to how that person wronged me and spinning in mental dramas. And because I want people to access their aliveness, their creativity, their playfulness, and really access what they have to offer the world, whether it's

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179.986 - 205.707 Josh Pais

You know, cooking a hamburger or solving, you know, a major scientific breakthrough that would handle global warming. Like whatever it is, it's whatever that person wants to express is in them to bring forward. That's where my passion lies in everything that I do.

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206.783 - 232.441 Mick Hunt

I love that, man. And hearing that warms my heart because, you know, I'm just going to say it and go there. With your background, the things that you've done, a lot of people don't have that be caught. And I don't mean this in a bad way when I talk about Hollywood at all, but people don't understand the grind of Hollywood and the competitiveness of Hollywood.

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232.461 - 242.275 Mick Hunt

And so a lot of times it's it's a me, me, me, because it has to be me, me, me. And you're the complete opposite of that. When did you realize that?

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Chapter 6: How can individuals effectively ride the emotional wave during performances?

242.592 - 247.502 Mick Hunt

This was your mission, that this was your purpose. Like, when did you say, oh, I'm different?

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247.522 - 277.712 Josh Pais

I mean, I remember telling my dad that I wanted to be an actor. And he was a physicist, you know, kind of a well-known theoretical physicist. And And he said and we went we went away for the weekend. We were in upstate New York. And and he said, you know, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And and he said and he said, but like, why?

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277.732 - 316.153 Josh Pais

And I may have been the first time I really articulated it, but I just said that. by creating different characters, even characters that are really dark or really elevated, that it's going to make the world better. Even if someone can see a dark side in a character, and if they have that in themselves, maybe they'll be like, yeah, I have that too. And it's also one of the powers of...

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317.602 - 328.48 Josh Pais

acting or watching a movie of watching theater when it's good. the audience sees all their stories cease to exist.

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Chapter 7: What practical exercises can help access creativity and authenticity?

328.9 - 355.209 Josh Pais

Like an audience comes to a performance, hoping that the actors will engage them so much that they will leave their life and they'll enter another world. And that that's, there's something really beautiful about, you know, about that. And so that's, you know, I told him that and he was like, He was like, okay, I'll pay for some acting classes, you know?

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357.232 - 370.048 Mick Hunt

And then you kind of took over the world, right? So talk to us a little bit about, you take acting classes, and then you get your first role. Like, what was that moment like for Josh Ponce?

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370.068 - 393.822 Josh Pais

I mean, the first movie I ever did was a movie called Jackknife, and it was with Robert De Niro, who was, you know... Especially for a young actor at that time, it was like he's... Not that he's not still, but just a god of this art form. Right.

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Chapter 8: What insights does Josh share from his book, 'Lose Your Mind'?

394.263 - 417.956 Josh Pais

And I remember prior to that, I had done... theater in little East village basements, you know, where there was hard, you know, there were maybe 12 people in the audience and the director was like, always speak loud enough so that the back row hears you. But, you know, and there were often boilers running, you know, so we had to speak over that.

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418.938 - 449.206 Josh Pais

And so I got this, you know, I auditioned, I got this movie and, And we do a rehearsal with me and De Niro in front of the whole crew, just so they can see how to light the scene. And so he says his line to me, and then I say my line to him, like so loud so that everybody, like the people making coffee 50 feet away could hear me, you know, and then he just spoke right to me.

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449.346 - 473.31 Josh Pais

And then I spoke to everybody and slowly, uh, He started pulling me in to going from like an amateur and a professor, you know, and a master to like two people talking to each other. Like he he pulled me in and that was seems obvious, but that was just a profound lesson.

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473.78 - 505.309 Josh Pais

that of film that it's just you and that other person and it was very simple but it was a big learning lesson and and i feel like i feel like you you know that i'm such a student of this art form like every job i'm i try to learn you know i'm just trying to learn something And so much of this craft is unlearning, is like getting out of your way, knowing how to step into the unknown.

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505.911 - 528.323 Josh Pais

Because when actors step into the unknown and create in that moment, that's what engages an audience. And the trap is... to come in preset of how you're going to do something and then do it. And it's like selling, you know, yesterday's bread, you know, it's just nobody's interested in that.

528.691 - 549.248 Mick Hunt

Right. Right. Talk to us, to the listeners and viewers. You know, I talked earlier about the competitiveness of Hollywood. Talk to us a little bit about that, because, you know, I have friends and I've had guests on and I've got to learn. You know, you just think, oh, you go for a role and if they like you or you got enough resume like it's yours, you don't even have to audition.

549.268 - 553.095 Mick Hunt

You just get those things. But tell us about the competitiveness of Hollywood.

554.695 - 575.563 Josh Pais

Well, in a sense, I feel like I'm competing with myself. Because the idea of competing with someone else for a role is just... It doesn't make any sense almost.

575.803 - 577.505 Mick Hunt

Because you don't physically compete.

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