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Mick Unplugged

Who’s In Your Circle? Steve Smith on Mentorship

31 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 16.629 Mick Hunt

Ladies and gentlemen, this is an amazing episode with Steve Smith Sr. We actually talk more about business than we talk about life. Steve Smith was somebody that he said if he could reinvent himself or play the game today, he would play it like Steve Smith. I'm just so proud and honored of the man that Steve Smith is.

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16.689 - 39.513 Mick Hunt

In this episode, you're going to hear some really cool stories and you're going to hear Steve Smith talk about emotional intelligence and break it down. Ladies and gentlemen, I present the GOAT, Steve Smith Sr. You're listening to Mick Unplugged, hosted by the one and only Mick Hunt. This is where purpose meets power and stories spark transformation.

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39.974 - 66.222 Mick Hunt

Mick takes you beyond the motivation and into meaning, helping you discover your because and becoming unstoppable. I'm Rudy Rush, and trust me, you're in the right place. Let's get unplugged. Steve Smith. How you doing? Good morning. Good afternoon. I appreciate you, man. You have no idea what you mean to me because there's something about you that is also in me.

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66.323 - 84.998 Mick Hunt

And you've said this, being an older sibling, being the person that people looked up to, I didn't have a plan B, bro. Like if I was going to change the life of my mom and my sister and my brother, there wasn't representation in my household. There wasn't representation in those four walls that were going to show me how to change.

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85.519 - 89.105 Mick Hunt

I have a plan B. And I know that that's something that you've always said too, man.

89.165 - 114.431 Steve Smith

Like football was it. Football was it. And, you know, for some people that's watching this and some people who put athletes in a category, you know, The opportunity to get a scholarship, an athletic scholarship, I believe is no different than getting a scholarship for academics, right?

114.612 - 152.609 Steve Smith

Because I'm very aware there's a lot of sports, non-football, who their whole structure is built off of having an athletic but also intelligent coach Athletes, so they can utilize and have a lot of flexibility. So like soccer, golf, some of the women's sports, that stuff is happening where they get guys who financially can't afford to go to college, but they also have great grades.

154.391 - 188.19 Steve Smith

And so where I'm going with that is, No plan B was playing football. My whole eggs were in the football basket. However, what I've been able to experience and learn and be able to be mentored and taught from people in business-wise, man, yes, if I couldn't catch a football, I wouldn't have got my foot in the door. But understanding my intelligence and my willingness to learn

189.267 - 230.265 Steve Smith

keeps me in the door. And so, yes, I am a football player. Yes, I went to school. And what's crazy is I did not do the typical psychology. At the time, I actually did family consumer studies. And they had this crazy myth that one day people would be willing to they would forfeit a gallon of gas to go get a gallon of milk. And I was, so they were teaching us about how the consumer consumes.

Chapter 2: What inspired Steve Smith's 'no plan B' mentality?

336.35 - 366.61 Steve Smith

man, just buy my building and business. So I started doing rental properties. I started right after I retired, like 06. And so I'm doing these rental properties. And how I got started was I went to look at this property. And man, the property was so dilapidated. It was ridiculous. But it was a duplex. I grew up in a duplex, so I'm very aware of that.

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367.012 - 396.883 Steve Smith

And so I'm looking through and, man, we're doing inspection to go look at the property. And Section 8, because I was on Section 8 as a kid, so I was trying to stay in that realm. I tried to do a lot of programs with my foundation or just business-wise. My niche is I'm a poor black kid who was unsubsidized. Now they call it snack, but latchkey kid.

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396.863 - 430.611 Steve Smith

And man, so a lot of the things I do are about the things that I experienced or did not have at my disposal. So I go in there in the 68 house and she has the oven open on and the tub still has water in it because of... it not draining properly, not having any heat. So she was using an oven to heat the one bedroom. And bro, it broke me.

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431.852 - 461.872 Steve Smith

It broke me that this landlord had reduced all these people to live in those conditions where they deserve more. Just because they are receiving assistance doesn't mean you lessen their respect of who they are as a human being. And man, so from there, I was so pissed off and angry. Man, I had a buddy, Mike Salamone, he came to my house.

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461.892 - 489.511 Steve Smith

We sat in the basement and I kind of talked to him about these things and laid it out to him like, this is what I want to do. Man, out of my group of people, even my mentor, he was like, nah, I don't like it. You're at the end of your career. You shouldn't do this. You shouldn't do that. Bro, then another person said the same thing. But this guy I knew, Mike Salamone, he was a home builder.

490.292 - 516.864 Steve Smith

He was like, man, you know your numbers. If your numbers are aligned, do it. Man, I did it and ended up having some good stuff happen, having some bad stuff happen. But I rode the roller coaster and then went into COVID. And that's when it showed me. Right. And so in business, I have three phases.

516.884 - 541.595 Unknown

The first five years, that's risky. Right. Then two years later, which is the seventh year, it starts to kind of shape up. In year 10, though, it's either the real deal or it's not. And, man, I learned that, bro.

542.376 - 546.244 Steve Smith

And it's been awesome. It's been awesome.

547.422 - 570.81 Mick Hunt

Man, so everybody that's watching, I mean, I've been a huge fan of Steve Smith forever, so I knew some of these things. You know that business mind that he had, did you? That's what I'm talking about, man. When I say you go all in in everything that you do, that's it, man. When did that become a part of who you were, or is that just always been part of that no plan B?

Chapter 3: How can athletes transition successfully into business?

748.47 - 771.981 Mick Hunt

And I've just been really quick to just say, hey, I don't have it in me right now. Like, no, no. Yes, sir. So, you know, you talked about the one or two things. And again, there's so many things that I appreciate about you. And I think your journey post career, I've gotten to see it a little bit on how you keep things simple.

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772.163 - 793.902 Mick Hunt

I remember it was one of your first analyst roles, like one of the first days. And you were on set and people were going back and forth and you were like, hey, guys, you can say all that. But the truth is, this guy is just better than the other guy and he knows it. Like, it ain't about technique. Like, this guy is just a better player. Like, you can be cute, but...

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793.882 - 813.097 Steve Smith

He's just bad. And sometimes it is, you know, sometimes we get caught up in our head trying to overanalyze because there's so many great analysts out there. There's also so many comments about people, how they should or shouldn't do what they, what they don't like about them. You know, the people that like you, they generally don't comment.

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813.217 - 839.278 Steve Smith

They heart, they thumbs up, they watch and continue to move on, press on through their day. The haters, the people who have something to say, they're going to make sure they take the time to leave a comment. But what's crazy, we're in a world right now where people desire to leave a comment about your line of work and put you down.

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840.288 - 846.354 Unknown

But if you do that to them, it gets so offended. Yes, sir.

847.195 - 879.441 Mick Hunt

Yes, sir. So, Steve, this is personal for me. I need coaching and mentoring from Steve Smith right now. The kettle calling the pot black. Okay. No, I need it. So, again, we have so much in common. You've got that, I guess we call it the dog, right? You've got that fire inside. I know that there were times that your team didn't share that same fire that you had.

879.461 - 901.033 Mick Hunt

How do you, and this is, this is for the viewers and listeners, the business leaders that are watching. How do you take your competitive fire, that streak that you have and, and, I don't know, like when you see that your teammate doesn't have it and you want to be disappointed, but you also understand like maybe that's just not them. And so you start to act a different way.

901.053 - 904.338 Mick Hunt

Like, how do you handle that? This is you coaching me right now.

904.358 - 936.361 Steve Smith

Well, one, every situation is different. And here's the thing that I do believe. When you're a tough critic on your teammates, that can wear them down. So I would say a lot of my teammates who love me, Also, when they played with me, were annoyed by me, were irritated because of doing that. And it wears on people, right? When they say, you know, you get more bees with honey, right?

Chapter 4: How does mentorship accelerate personal growth?

1195.322 - 1224.86 Steve Smith

But so what I realize is just kind of you just be who you are, man. Yeah. You just be who you are. And that's going to be some good. And we know dang sure it's going to be some bad too. Yeah. So you guys surround yourself around people who really can walk things through with you and you can trust them.

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1225.641 - 1232.169 Unknown

Yeah. And they can trust you. That's the key. That's the key.

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1232.97 - 1260.078 Mick Hunt

That is totally the key. You know, we watched the game of football today and it doesn't seem like you retired long ago, but it seems like the game has changed so much since you've retired, right? Like the things that you did on the field, just from, these are the words of Mick and Mick only, from totally punishing your opponent in a good way, right? Like people get suspended for that now, right?

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1260.158 - 1271.206 Mick Hunt

Or they get looked at in a negative, but it's like, hey, Sometimes Steve Smith just knows he's better than the person on the other side. And he doesn't need that opponent to think that he's got a chance to hang with him.

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1271.346 - 1301.869 Steve Smith

Right. Well, that goes. Here's the other part I got sidetracked on. You know, we go in the Hall of Fame and you go in the Hall of Fame or they have your individual numbers and your name on the back of your jersey because they want to identify who you are. And so if they are already saying that we need to identify each player in each position, then yes, there also will never be another Randy Moss.

1301.889 - 1336 Steve Smith

All right. There are people who maybe look like him from the eye test. But there are things about Randy Moss that when God created Randy, it was only unique to him. So for me, if there's another me, if there was another me or if there were other players like me, then I no longer would be needed. I would have lost my job. Because they can just go out when I do something stupid.

1336.04 - 1339.286 Steve Smith

They can just go out on the corner and just grab another one.

1339.306 - 1340.548 Mick Hunt

Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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