191. Sheeran (with Jacob Hawley)
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What is the controversy around the term “Shylock” and anti‑Semitism?
Talking of Shylock Yeah are we are we on? Yeah, we're on. Let's open
an episode by saying hello, Shylock.
Yes. Well
shout out to all the Shylocks out there.
Yep. Now, have I got it right that Shylock is a Shakespearean anti Semitic term?
Yeah, well it's a Shakespearean Jewish character. Yes. From the I believe the Merchant of Venice. But it is the merchant. My brother played
Shylock in Venice.
Yeah. He's a great character. But he's an is yeah, it's anti Shoe. I've done a
Shylock monologue at one point. Um if you cut me, do I not bleed? If you like injure me, do you not cry? It's like just because I'm a Jew, I don't have feelings. That's the whole point. Yeah, I
think I think you I think it may be an anti Semitic character, but I'm not sure.
That that that's that's anti Semitic. Yes. Yeah, yeah.
So's everything else apparently. Well
well. Come on,
let's get Hawley let's get Hawley. Get Hay Let's get North London Jacob Hawley. Hey.
Up to his nuts. There was there's a fella that I knew who he was sort of part of Corbyn's like gang. Yeah. At that time. Yeah, he was a he was in Sinn Fein as well.
He was in the Hamas Sinn Fein joint eleven. Corbin's sorry, Corbin's testimonial where it's an eleven of side game between Hamas and Sinn Fein and he does one half for each? Yes. I love that like also Hamas, Sinn Fein, they're the same. Yeah. Like do
Yeah. They get
on. Yeah. Corbin's wedding. Corbin Corbyn's wedding. You know, you know you know like at my wedding, there's different tables of like mates from home, blah blah blah. Corbyn's wedding is like Friends from Hamas, friends from Sinn Fein. Hezbollah, don't know about it.
Yeah. The Chinese communists
down yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A little like blue haired people from Brighton who think kids being should be allowed to staple tits on themselves. Yeah, the
glass to table.
G J Ping like giving speeches about how Corbin shit himself one time when they were in holidays.
So how do you know Jeremy?
Yeah.
Were you on the stack?
No, so so there was there was a guy who was um Part of Corbin's I don't know, like part of his Labour thing. And he got caught um calling people Shylock. 'Cause I think some of this anti Semitism stuff is like, you know, you you can want free Palestine without being anti Semitic. Absolutely. Do you think that Jacob? Well,
that's an absolutely
Mind blowing statements. Fuck the lot of them and you said I've got to be careful with my audience
So my audience of right wing football fans. Yeah. I believe Israel has a right to their own handset of the thing. So you're telling
me you can be against slaughtering children without being anti Semitic?
It's hard, but
you can be. Yeah.
You have to walk around. Yeah.
It's a tightrope what? Yeah. But the problem is there are a lot of left wing people who are anti Semitic and so this this pal of Corbyn's was c like was caught saying that term. Yeah. Was caught. He said it in a town hall meeting where he knew someone was taking. He sent it into a microphone.
Ah, you've caught me. He
said it to a microphone, it was
going into a room. It went into a recording device to then be broadcasting. I mean this is classic, like like anything that people pull us up about on this podcast where it's like Mike Inventoria were caught saying this, it's like we broadcasted it on the internet.
Mike Inventoria, he paid for a recording space.
Hired Vittorio's cousin to help get it across as many platforms as possible.
We were caught with our pants down. Ah,
you got us sorry. We all make mistakes. Wouldn't it be
funny now to r to write Ted Shearing and be like, lad, I'll do the support. I'll open her up.
So you're saying I shouldn't have done that?
You shouldn't I
wouldn't be surprised.
I'll open
her
up, brother. Believe it to me, brother. So Cor but Corbyn's pal, he's caught doing the Shylock thing. Court. But then his his like excuse was he was like, I'm really sorry, I'm working class. I don't know what that was. I'm
working class and it's part of my culture to say slurs.
To say Shakespearean slow. Yeah. Yeah, it's a bit hyper, I'm just from
the ends. But if so I'm talking But
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the controversy around the term “Shylock” and anti‑Semitism?
0:00–7:54
2
How do the hosts discuss the political fallout from Macklemore’s anti‑Palestine costume?
7:54–16:41
3
Why do the hosts argue that you can oppose child‑killing without being anti‑Semitic?
16:41–26:18
4
What happened at Jacob’s wedding that sparked the “Shylock” debate?
26:18–35:15
5
How did the hosts describe the chaotic encounter with a homeless man over stolen kids’ clothes?
35:15–43:45
6
What is the story behind the sex‑doll that Jacob received and why did it become a running gag?
43:45–52:05
7
Which upcoming tours and shows are the hosts promoting in this episode?
52:05–1:01:26
8
How can listeners support the podcast on Patreon and what extra content is promised?
1:01:26–1:12:56