Implementing Evidence-Informed Practice at Scale with Meg Lee and Jim Heal, Mind the Gap, Ep.106 (S6,E4)

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On this episode of Mind the Gap, Tom Sherrington is joined by Meg Lee and Jim Heal, co-founders of Learning Science Partners, to explore how to make evidence-informed practice live and last at scale. Meg and Jim share why learning science should be a lens rather than an initiative, how they build common language across large, complex districts, and the three-phase approach they use to build, deepen, and sustain change. They discuss Maryland’s move to embed foundational learning science in statute, practical facilitation moves (from cognitive-load demos to “transparent facilitation”), and the idea of instructional equity - asking “who gets to think?” in every lesson.Dr. Jim Heal is a leading advocate for bridging the worlds of research and practice in education. His work seeks to develop expertise in evidence-informed instruction and leadership in K-12 schools, school districts, and higher education in the United States and Europe. Dr. Heal was a high school English teacher and principal for ten years in the UK before moving to the US, where he became Director of Practice at Harvard’s Research Schools International initiative. He currently serves as Professor of Evidence-Informed Education Leadership at Academica University of Applied Sciences in Amsterdam, served as a lecturer at the Harvard Graduate School of Education where he earned his doctorate in educational leadership, and is author of How Teaching Happens: Seminal Works in Teaching and Teacher Effectiveness and What They Mean in Practice and Mental Models: How Understanding the Mind Can Transform the Way You Work and Learn.Meg Lee is a forerunner in implementing evidence-informed practice in schools and districts. A public school educator in a variety of roles from teacher to professional learning specialist to school-based administrator to central executive leader for over 25 years, Meg directed induction and professional learning for a large, innovative public district that implemented evidence-informed practice and worked to ensure every educator understands how learning happens. She serves as Core Teacher, Learning Science and Advisor, Professional Learning at Academica University of Applied Sciences in Amsterdam, is the author of Mindsets for Parents: Strategies to Encourage Growth Mindsets in Kids (2nd ed.), and has taught education and psychology courses at the graduate level.Find out more about both Jim and Meg's work at https://www.learningsciencepartners.com/Tom Sherrington has worked in schools as a teacher and leader for 30 years and is now a consultant specialising in teacher development and curriculum & assessment planning. He regularly contributes to conferences and CPD sessions locally and nationally and is busy working in schools and colleges across the UK and around the world. Follow Tom on X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@teacherhead⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Emma Turner FCCT is a school improvement advisor, education consultant, trainer and author. She has almost three decades of primary teaching, headship and leadership experience across the sector, working and leading in both MATs and LAs. She works nationally and internationally on school improvement including at single school level and at scale. She has a particular interest in research informed practice in the primary phase, early career development, and CPD design. Follow Emma on X ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@emma_turner75⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.This podcast is sponsored by Teaching WalkThrus and produced in association with Haringey Education Partnership. Find out more at ⁠⁠⁠https://walkthrus.co.uk/⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠https://haringeyeducationpartnership.co.uk/

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