Unschool Yourself
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Why do Miquita and Jordan describe the past week as “extreme highs and lows” and how does that set the tone for the episode?
An auspicious week, but also an unpredictable week. I guess it was, for me personally, Jordan, full of extreme highs and unexpected extreme lows. It felt like what life is, but in seven days.
Wow.
Just like all of it in seven days.
This last week's up there, I think, for me, in terms of, yeah, that experience. I kind of came back from the forest on the same day that my private life became a kind of public... news story which is in spite of my years as someone in the public eye to varying degrees I've actually never experienced it's something I've never experienced I've never been in a high profile relationship really so yeah it's I think like I'm very conflicted because I definitely pride myself on being open and transparent and I like to pull apart experiences of my own in the hope that it can create insight or like create conversation but I think this is a difficult one because if I'm to believe how quickly speculation can arise you know I'm always like a couple words or sentences away from either making something worse or right so you feel like talking about it is sort of adding fuel to the fire
Yeah, I think I'm uncomfortable with even the concept of it being out. Like, I think, you know, I don't know. I don't know what the root of that story is. I don't know, like, as in, I don't know who's spoken to who or whatever. But like, I think it's just important for, ironically, the Miss Me listeners who have messaged me, I think people who listen to Miss Me will have a very unique angle on whatever's been spoken about.
No, I mean, welcome to the hell and the beauty of Miss Me. It follows you everywhere, goes through everything with you.
Also, you know, like, there's obviously... Sometimes it's easy to forget, I think, when there's these kind of bizarre alternate versions of people that exist within, like, other people's lives. There are other people involved, obviously, like... And... Yeah, it's like... I'm definitely going to talk and write, I think, once things have settled a little bit. So I just wanted to, I guess, say to the Miss Me listeners, obviously I'm not going to avoid something that's quite obvious, that's been a thing. I don't want to pretend that that isn't happening or hasn't happened. But I also want to make it clear that it's so bizarre. I honestly can't... Yeah, it just feels surreal, I suppose. Yes, I can't put into words how bizarre... If I already had a pre-existing...
a pre-existing apprehension on like celebrity culture i think being in one moment like part of it in quite a like concentrated way which obviously these things do dissipate thankfully it is like it's left me you know i guess with more questions i also i i and i will say that i have i have also it has had some had come up some surprising moments of like real authentic connection which again i'll speak about another time but yeah weird mate like weird seeing myself just fucking weird yeah just people talking about my life with you know some people will have you know have listened to the podcast whatever else other people just literally have read the story and are just commenting It's bizarre. You know, people, we don't know anything.
And I would like to believe that even though I'm a fan of people or I'm invested, I think would be the argument to why celebrity culture exists, like I'm invested in other people's lives, I would also always hold like a kind of gauze in front of my personal investment on the basis that there's no way I could possibly know what's actually happening.
Yes, if you didn't know that before, boy, do you know it now. Like, actually, it's all just made up crazy craziness and sort of like, I suppose, a sort of pantomime of one's own life.
I've been acutely aware of, like, having a responsibility, especially with my own work and how I conduct myself in my own work, because it just happens to fall into, you know, more social conversation and, you know, especially stuff around men and boys. And for me, a big part of that is love and connection and whatever else.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
Why do Miquita and Jordan describe the past week as “extreme highs and lows” and how does that set the tone for the episode?
0:18–7:51
2
How do the hosts navigate the awkwardness of recent celebrity‑culture attention and why do they choose to keep parts of it private?
7:51–12:30
3
What is the new Natural History GCSE, and why are the hosts excited about its focus on UK wildlife, fieldwork and environmental challenges?
12:30–17:31
4
Why do Miquita and Jordan feel that traditional school didn’t work for them and what personal experiences illustrate those failures?
17:31–24:13
5
What lessons do the hosts propose for a better curriculum – from natural history to the history of sex and interpersonal relationships?
24:13–28:59
6
How does Jordan’s experience with design and empathy reshape his view of education and creative work?
28:59–35:21
7
If they could design their own school, what subjects would they teach and why would they prioritize curiosity, fieldwork and personal finance?
35:21–40:00
8
Where do the hosts imagine building this “School of Why” and how does the location reflect their educational philosophy?
40:00–43:41