Documenting ICE Agents & Detention Centers | Christina Clusiau & Shaul Schwarz

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Joining me today are Shaul Schwarz and Christina Clusiau, the filmmakers behind the critically acclaimed Netflix documentary Immigration Nation. As award-winning directors, cinematographers, and journalists, their work has shed light on some of the most pressing social issues of our time. Immigration Nation is a six-part docuseries that offers an unprecedented look inside the U.S. immigration system, featuring raw, unfiltered access to ICE operations, immigrant families, and the complexities of enforcement policies. Their ability to capture both the humanity and the harsh realities of immigration enforcement made the series one of the most talked-about documentaries of 2020.In our conversation, Shaul and Christina discuss what they witnessed while making Immigration Nation and how the landscape of immigration has evolved—especially now, with Donald Trump back in office. We dive into what’s happening at the border, the shifting role of ICE, and the human stories often lost in political debates. Their insights provide a crucial perspective on a topic that remains at the heart of national and global discussions.--- --- —VISIT OUR AMAZING SPONSORS!ROGERS HOOD APOTHECARYGo to rogershood.com and use code RACHEL at checkout for 10% OFF--- --- ---PLEASE LIKE, SHARE, SUBSCRIBE, AND GIVE US A 5-STAR REVIEW!: ratethispodcast.com/missunderstood Become a Patreon Member: https://www.patreon.com/c/MissUnderstoodwithRachelUchitelShop Miss Understood Merch https://missumerch.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Rachel on Instagram!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/racheluchitelnyc/?hl=enFollow Rachel on TikTok! https://www.tiktok.com/@itsracheluchitelExecutive Producer: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠George Carmona Our Sponsors:* Check out BetterHelp: https://www.betterhelp.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/miss-understood-with-rachel-uchitel/exclusive-contentAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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