Democrats vs Republicans: Who Is Actually More Violent? - Robert Pape #1154
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What is “violent populism” and why is it considered a new era of political violence?
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What is the number one threat to America, in your opinion?
The number one threat to America is not from a foreign government, even Iran. It's not from a fringe militia group. It's from tens of millions of Americans who support political violence. Once you have support for political violence lodged in the mainstream of society, this changes everything.
Is this a new
era of political violence? It's a new era. It's an era I call violent populism because I want to explain that we have had almost every year since the founding of our country, 250 years, some type of political violence, some type of militia group, an assassination attempt here or there. That's not what we are living through now. This is a new paradigm. This is a different world. Now, it has happened a few times before. I'm sure we'll talk about this in the 1920s, the 1960s. But as for almost everybody listening to this show, we are in an era. of historically high political violence and historically high support for political violence that will change the election that we are about to go through in ways we may not really be prepared for.
How unprecedented is this? Because, I don't know, I think back to the Vietnam War and there were protests around that. That felt like civil unrest domestically. And prior to that, there's been all manner of, I mean, there was a civil war not even that long ago, right? Well, the
Civil War, 1860, let's just remind ourselves that that is a long time ago, 180
Talking to someone with a country that's 1,000 years old, you know what I mean?
Well,
OK. So
maybe
from your perspective, it was
just the other day. But for Americans, that is a long time ago. In the 1960s, we need to recall that that was over 65 years ago. So that's a long time ago. And that means that although there will be a few of us baby boomers who were born, I'm right at the tail end of the baby boom generation. So there will be a few of us who were born. But even I can't really recall personally the 1960s because I was just way too young. So the fact is, yes, there have been precursors and other eras of violent populism where you have a whole spate, waves of assassination attempts, waves of violent protests happening And side by side with that, large millions and tens of millions of Americans supporting political violence.
But it is actually a historical anomaly in our country. It is not simply the same as it was 10 years ago or the same as it was 15 years before that. But the big picture here is is that we are in an era where we have experienced not one, not two, but three assassination attempts against Donald Trump. Two, when he was running for president. One, when he was president. These three are just a small number of the many assassination attempts and assassinations that we have seen over the last five years. You have to recall the assassination attempt against Nancy Pelosi, missed her but almost killed her husband. Brett Kavanaugh, that's a U.S. Supreme Court justice. Josh Shapiro, the arsonist, burned down large parts of his house while his family was sleeping in the house, including him.
He's governor of Pennsylvania. Just literally a year ago and two days, so we're speaking on September 12th, But on September 10th, 2025, Charlie Kirk, a major political activist, a podcast host beloved by tens of millions of Americans, was assassinated while he was having –
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is “violent populism” and why is it considered a new era of political violence?
0:00–14:04
2
How does recent survey data reveal the scale of support for political violence in the U.S.?
14:04–34:55
3
What does the detailed analysis of the January 6th attack tell us about mass support turning into action?
34:55–56:16
4
How did the 2020‑2021 George Floyd protests and subsequent campus protests contribute to the pattern of violent populism?
56:16–1:12:07
5
What new profile replaces the old “unemployed militia” stereotype for political extremists?
1:12:07–1:27:25
6
How are demographic shifts and wealth concentration driving the rise of violent populism?
1:27:25–1:38:36
7
What are the three stages of an election‑driven escalation trap that could lead to another January 6‑style event?
1:38:36–1:43:12
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