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Chapter 1: Why don’t Americans use WhatsApp?
British supremacy in messaging services. We need to try and get everybody to use WhatsApp. The superior messaging system and Americans refuse to use it.
Chapter 2: What was Mickey Mantle's legendary experience at Yankee Stadium?
Do you not think?
We was talking about this earlier as to why Americans don't use WhatsApp more. One of the theories is that America had free SMS before anybody else. So us Brits had to pay. How much did it used to be for a text back in the day? 15p maybe? 15p. 10p. 10p. That would ramp up very fast.
But that was why people used to use Leetspeak, right? That was why you was there, L-Y, because you were trying to snap everything to under 160 characters. Yeah.
I once, when I was 14 years old, had my first ever girlfriend and we would text and we would text and we would text. You fucking bankrupted yourself. My dad comes down one day and you know when you have like A4 that you'd stack in a printer? He just drops that on the phone bill and it wrapped up about 800 pounds. It's an itemized bill. Text messages, yes.
Wow.
so i then sent that's a lot of sexting at 14 i then sent her one final text which was can't do texts anymore let's do calls so we did calls all the time next next month so i had to pay off about 1200 1300 pounds of of debt to my father still paying it off payment payment plan dad you're cock blocking me so that's how i'm 14 i'm trying to get i'm trying to get my cred up but yeah i just whatsapp's a superior tim uses whatsapp tim's good on whatsapp
I mean, look, I use every new inbox that is slowly eroding the sanity of everybody who's listening to this.
Do you guys see the Nikita Beard tweet a long time ago? It feels like he said something like, every time I use WhatsApp, it feels like I landed in a third world country. You're allowed to say that. Okay, fair enough. You're allowed to say that.
I grew up on Long Island. I think I'm allowed to say it too.
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Chapter 3: How does learning a language in immersion differ from traditional methods?
There we go.
That might have been my dildo. We don't call that a meditation retreat where I'm from. Fair enough.
What is Bonnie Blue called? Yeah, yeah, yeah, true. Tuesday. It was really interesting. And it turns out, I Googled it, it turns out that's actually a real thing. People feel phantom vibrations from their phone. You can go check it out. And I was like, wow, your body is so tuned to this over... Every time you get a notification, every time you get whatever.
And most people have their phone on silent now. So the vibration is really like a thing with the haptics. Pavlovianly programmed yourself. Pretty much. To expect this thing to happen. So like this sort of device is now... a potential part of your, the way that you sort of feel and understand the world. And in this case, kind of like a, a touch type sense, but it was remarkable.
And I, I went down the rabbit hole and I looked at it and I was like, wow, this is not just me. There's so many individuals who, Like you said, if I move my phone in the other pocket, the other one will completely vibrate.
My wallet's going to be vibrating.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, for some people, that might be a feature.
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Chapter 4: What role does forgetting play in our lives?
Religion found me, Jesus found me, Christianity found me, God found me. And after the lowest moment that I had, I'm really, really happy to say that my mental health's in a better place. and I'm religious. And you get the sort of smattering of kind of like empathetic applause around the room.
And Alex told me that Richard's almost immediate response was, yes, but do you really think that Jesus moved the stone out of the way on the third day of Aramea? And what you see is a guy who is playing a game of optimizing for rationality whilst ignoring effectiveness. And you go, how can you say that it's anything but a positive when this person's life essentially was saved by this thing?
And it makes me... And this is one of the reasons I think that atheism is not cool at the moment, that it feels in a world that's increasingly bereft of meaning, it feels like really sterile and quite judgmental and quite harsh. And it makes me, when I think about it, I'm like... It just doesn't seem very nice to me.
And I'm aware, removing comforting delusions, why should you allow someone to indulge in their silly fantasy? I'm like, bro, I think we're getting toward the stage where comforting delusions are allowed. Because if not... So maybe it is Mormonism all along.
Do you guys... Intellectuals oftentimes get in this territory where they try to use proof by counterexample. So they'll try to find one counterexample in something that you're saying and then effectively void the whole thing. It's a very common thing because this is what you do in...
math setting or anything and they they tend to do that in kind of a religious setting as well and it's like that's not applicable here just because xyz x is not true doesn't mean invalidates the rest of it um and this is why people tend to like you know i think richard dawkins is like religion is a pick and choose kind of buffet you know you can go pick and believe in something he also did say that ai is uh sentient with claudia how old's richard though now 70s
70s. I think as soon as anybody gets over 65, you've got to give them a little bit of leeway. Public breathing room, yeah. Why?
Have you been around anybody over 65? Richard Dawkins.
Yeah?
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Chapter 5: Why do Americans prefer texting over WhatsApp?
What?
But part of me thinks that, again, I hate to sound like I'm doing an affiliate link for the beginning of infinity, which I am. I'll post it in the link. But problems are infinite. So even now is a great example. So AI, which is first off, we're having this hypothetical conversation about this hypothetical thing, which I think could happen, but it's completely hypothetical.
But assuming that hypothetical is true, we first have the problem of, well, if this AI is so smart, why can't it fix this? Because those two things seem paradoxical. We need to want to fix it. Yeah, which again, which is a different question. But if it is so smart, why can't it fix it is the first point.
The second point is, even now, are we not having quite a meaningful conversation about this problem? Is this not an example where this hypothetical AI solved everything, yet it hasn't solved meaning, and we're now constantly talking about how we're going to get more meaning for human beings?
I don't think that the problem is necessarily that meaning would be impossible to access, but if you make meaning harder to access, you end up with some pretty gnarly outcomes, in the same way as it's not impossible to eat healthily. but it is harder to not be fat in a calorie-dense, high-processed food environment.
And if you make it a meaning oasis, it's sparser to get to meaning, then it makes life harder for everybody to find that. Can I ask a dumb question?
Yeah.
Is it how to open the toothpaste? I was watching you. Send him here. Back to the factory. Let's talk to this Copac.
Oh, my God. Amazing. I have another dumb question, which is, how do most people, or normal people, think about meaning? Like, how do they define it? What is the underlying element of it?
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Chapter 6: What insights does Tim Ferriss share about memory and meaning?
Amazing.
Great.
They're like, Oh, okay.
It's better than saying podcast.
But like, that is pretty similar. Actually, it's a job.
Yeah.
The attribute of Western society to a certain extent with all the focus on productivity and looking at your calendar and managing your time and, you know, sort of going from meeting to meeting to meeting and then having a full schedule and organizing, you know, a meetup one month later with your friends and putting it on the calendar.
It's so, like, fascinating because effectively a lot of people treat it as allocating time.
Mm-hmm.
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Chapter 7: How does the conversation shift towards AI and consciousness?
The market's so difficult to define in some sense.
Those apps are also really struggling. There's been a massive downturn in all these apps.
You see what Whitney Wolf Hurd's been saying recently that Bumble is going to have my AI avatar date your AI avatar and then it'll feed that back up.
Did you see there was an interview she just did like last week or whatever, and she's like, this is the end of the swipe era, and Bumble's introducing this sort of AI matchmaker or whatever.
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But going back to your point, Chris, which was the idea... The capitalism removes friction, right? Like, the idea is that you have this invisible layer in society, sort of, that is fixing supply and demand such that there's this equilibrium at all times. And it turns out that reduces friction because accessibility... I mean, DoorDash, you can, like...
I can get an Amazon delivery in 15, 30 minutes.
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Chapter 8: What are the implications of neuromodulation on mental health?
You got a fancy dress outfit in less than an hour yesterday. Yeah, because that's what I do on a Sunday. Needed a costume. Needed a costume. One of these new apps.
I mean, it was remarkable.
I need a furry with a cape.
And then went straight onto Whistler or whatever. Yeah, I was in like a Carmel and I didn't have a bathing suit because people were going in the pool or whatever. It was like, oh, I can just door dash it. in 30 minutes. And somebody will bring me a bathing suit because I didn't have... And that's remarkable.
And I think going back to this, it's like, yeah, obviously, I think it reduces value of things when the friction goes down.
I do think a great example is Winston Churchill. I posted this the other day. Churchill's biography is so good. You go, Jesus Christ, did this man. Which one? The big, I think it's Andrew Roberts' Churchill biography. First off, Jared, could you pull it up? How many times Winston Churchill nearly died? He outbeats a cat. I think he almost drowns.
What's the terminal velocity of Winston Churchill? He gets ran over. But Churchill used to, and famously a sufferer of depression, as he called it, Black Dog. He used to plant, sorry, he used to lay 200 bricks per day for a significant period of his life just to keep himself busy.
What was he building with those 200 bricks?
Apparently he wasn't actually that good to the stories that the actual dick layers came in afterwards, but he would always do. Yeah, you can have a look. So here we go. Battlefield dangers in Cuba, India, Sudan and South Africa. Escaped from the Boer prisoner of war camp. Frontline combat in World War I. Got hit by a car.
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