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Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin

Sextortion: The Darkest Deepfake Scams, How to Protect Yourself and Laurie Segall's Hunt for “Mr. Deepfakes”

Tue, 03 Jun 2025

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In the U.S., the cost of cybercrime in 2025 is estimated to hit $639.2 billion— up from $452.3 billion in 2024—an alarming surge fueled in large part by advancements in AI. Today, Nicole sits down with tech journalist Laurie Segall to uncover one of the darkest AI-driven scams: a disturbing scheme where scammers generate fake nude images to extort their victims. In this conversation, Laurie breaks down the most common deepfake crimes and scams, how to spot them, and how to protect yourself. She also shares the jaw-dropping story of her investigation into a shadowy figure known as “Mr. Deepfakes,” a man she describes as one of the most dangerous people on the internet, and what happened when she tracked him down and confronted him face-to-face. Nicole and Laurie zoom out to ask even bigger questions: What does this mean for women, for democracy, and for the future of AI? Spoiler alert: we are still very much in the Wild West. Follow Laurie’s work, and her investigation into Mr. Deepfakes here.

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0.209 - 13.552 Nicole Lappin

Imagine if you had a co-host in your life, you know, someone who could help manage your every day and do the things that you don't have time for. Well, unfortunately, that's not something we can opt into in life, but it is something you can opt into as an Airbnb host.

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14.092 - 29.777 Nicole Lappin

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30.138 - 51.552 Nicole Lappin

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51.972 - 70.526 Nicole Lappin

But some of my busiest friends have been overwhelmed by this whole idea of hosting. But thanks to the new co-host offering, they have finally signed up. So if you've got a secondary property or an extended trip coming up and you need a little help hosting while you're away, you can hire a co-host to do the work for you. Find a co-host at Airbnb.com slash host.

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73.067 - 97.356 Nicole Lappin

I'm Nicole Lappin, the only financial expert you don't need a dictionary to understand. It's time for some money rehab. Today, I'm joined by one of the bravest voices in tech journalism, Laurie Siegel. And as you're about to hear, I've known her for about 100 years. But you know her, too. You've seen her on CNN, 60 Minutes.

97.896 - 120.349 Nicole Lappin

And if you've been following her reporting over the last few years, you've probably found yourself both captivated and terrified. Laurie's latest work uncovers one of the darkest corners of the Internet. deepfakes, specifically the dangers of AI-generated images of real people in fake sexual acts. In our conversation, she explains the common deepfake crimes and scams and how to protect yourself.

120.869 - 151.052 Nicole Lappin

We also talk about her totally insane investigation into Mr. Deepfakes, a man that she calls one of the most dangerous people online, and what happened when she actually tracked him down and confronted him. And finally, we talk to the Honestly, my takeaway, it's definitely still the Wild West. Ah, Laurie Siegel! I'm so happy to be here with you. I'm so happy to say welcome to Money Rehab.

151.492 - 164.651 Nicole Lappin

Thank you. We've known each other for 100,000 years. Correct. We worked together at CNN. 50,000 years ago. Correct. But when I saw online that you were sextorted, first of all, I wanted to kill that person.

164.711 - 164.971 Laurie Segall

Yeah.

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