The Ghost Of The Mountains: Unraveling The Secrets Of The Snow Leopard

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What makes the snow leopard earn the nickname “Ghost of the Mountains”?

Derek Mooney 0:00
Now I want you to imagine it's the middle of winter. Hard to do nowadays. In the Himalayas. Or is it the Himalaya? You're high in the mountains. The temperature is well below freezing. The wind is biting, and you're trudging through deep snow in one of the most remote places on earth. Then suddenly you notice a set of tracks ahead of you. But what made them? A mountain goat? A wolf? Something from local legend perhaps? Or could they belong to one of the world's most elusive big cats? The snow leopard. The snow leopard Is so perfectly adapted to this harsh, frozen landscape that it's rarely seen by human eyes. For nearly two decades, Kulu Suryowanche has followed those tracks across some of the wildest places on earth, trying to unlock the secrets of this remarkable animal.
Derek Mooney 1:03
In his new book, Ghost of the Mountains, Kulu reflects on his lifelong bond with the snow leopard and the delicate Himalayan. Landscape. Providing a unique perspective on both the hardships and the wonders of life at high altitude. It's important to note that this conversation was recorded prior to the disaster in Nepal and Tibet and the events that followed. Our thoughts and prayers are with the families, friends and loved ones of all of those affected by this terrible tragedy.
Kullu Suryawanshi 1:35
Hi Derek, hi Richard, thank you so much for having me on the show. The book The Ghost of the Mountains is an account of snow leopard biology, ecology, conservation through my perspective as a researcher and mountaineer from the Himalaya, parts of Mongolia, parts of Kyrgyzstan, and parts of Nepal. This book will take you on a A journey through these big mountains in search of one of the least known wildcats of this planet, the snow leopard.
Richard Collins 2:09
You come from a part of India orangabad, which is in the lowlands, Maharashtra, and as the British used to say when they were in India, it's beastly hot in the lowlands of India. Now yet you choose to study something that's four thousand meters up in the Himalaya. Now that is an extraordinary decision to make. How did you
Kullu Suryawanshi 2:38
Yes, Aurangabad is as different as it gets from the Himalaya. But I grew up Reading books about mountaineering and adventure. Some of them British, Sir Chris Bonington was one of them, and also some of the Indian expeditions. And so from my early years it was really the adventure the of the Himalaya that that was a calling. And so that is what drew me up into the mountains. I don't think back in the day heat or cold was much of a concern.
Derek Mooney 3:14
Can you tell us about the first time you actually saw a snow leopard? And how did you actually live up so high, as Richard said, over four thousand meters? What's that in old money? Something like fourteen thousand feet or something like that? Were there other people there? Were you in a village? Were you alone in a tent?
Kullu Suryawanshi 3:32
I lived in a small village. At 4350 meters in elevation, the village had five houses and it was completely cut off from all roads during winters. There's just snow everywhere. So some 17 inhabitants and me living together in close quarters, uh warming our cabins. Uh they're actually uh mud houses, so warming those mud. Houses with wood fire smoke. And walking the mountains from morning till evening. I would step out at first light, six or seven AM whenever the sun would be coming up, and I would stay out till evening. And my first snow leopard sighting was quite serendipitous. Casually sitting on the terrace of the camp. And you know, s scanning around to see blue sheep. I did not expect to find a snollopod so easily.
Kullu Suryawanshi 4:29
But then a little kid from the village peered through my spotting scope and said there's a blue sheep stuck in the snow. And that just didn't make sense. So I had to go and check it out myself and it happened to be a snow leopard. With Only the head and the back sticking out of the snow, rest of it ploughing through two feet deep snow. And as I was trying to make sense of the scene in front of me, a second snow leopard entered the frame. And at that moment I just couldn't imagine what was happening in front of me, so I called my colleagues and together we went up closer across a gorge from these two snow leopards and watched them for hours.

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