Chapter 1: What horrific discovery was made in Muswell Hill on February 8, 1983?
Hey weirdos, I'm Alina. I'm Ash. And this is Morbid.
This is morbid. This is morbid and there's a lot going on. My goodness, doesn't it just feel like that every single day you wake up? Truly. More and more going on.
Something very, this is one of those things, it's very chilling and it's like something that I can't stop thinking about. And like checking in on. So, the Today Show anchor, Savannah Guthrie, her 84-year-old mother, Nancy Guthrie, has been missing since Saturday night, I believe. The last time she was seen was Saturday night. And this story is just wild and heartbreaking and horrifying.
I can't stop thinking about it. No, I can't either. We, I mean, we haven't been so much recently just because life has gotten busy, but we used to be such a Today Show house.
Oh, my God. I used to come over like every single day and we would just watch hours of the Today Show.
Yeah, love the Today Show. And like, so we've been watching Savannah forever. Yeah. And it's destroying my soul to think of how much pain she must be going through right now. My heart is with her and her family. Yeah. And this story is just wild. I mean, Nancy is 84 years old. She's just described as sharp as a tack, has a little bit of mobility issues.
So she wasn't going to be getting up and leaving on her own. Right. She lives in Arizona and there's not a lot coming out, which leads me to believe that
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Chapter 2: Who was Dennis Nilsen and what was his background?
They might have something that they're working on. Or at least they're trying to chase something down that maybe they don't want. Or something happened that they just don't want us to know.
Yeah, because they've said they don't believe it's a home invasion. They don't believe it's a robbery gone wrong. But there is evidence of foul play.
Yeah, it sounds like they're pretty much stating now that she was abducted from her bed. An 84-year-old woman abducted from her bed. Yeah, it's horrific. It's just horrifying. She needs medication every 24 hours to literally survive. It's life-threatening if she doesn't have it.
And the medicine was left in the home, which is very concerning. And now her pacemaker's not connecting to her Apple Watch any longer.
Yeah, that was the newest update, so... It's all really horrifying and I'm just thinking about how her family is feeling right now. I can't even imagine. I can't even put my brain in that space, but I feel really bad. You just hope that like by some miracle she's found alive and well. I hope they know more than they're saying. Yeah.
And I hope that they find Nancy because it's really, it's ugh, the world. Yeah. And Savannah has gone through a lot.
yeah she just I think she just came back from like a vocal cord surgery or something yeah and just like their family in general like it's just yeah that's so sad but yeah we loved the we always loved the today show and you know it's just I was like oh yeah it's you like you have these people in your house on the daily so you feel this like strange connection to them so I felt like super I went as soon as I heard I was like oh my god it's like your friend is going through this it feels like yeah it's really sad but just let's let's hope they find nancy
Yeah, and Savannah's asking for prayers. Yeah, like, damn. But yeah, just wanted to point that out. Hopefully there's an update and a good one. A good one, I know.
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Chapter 3: What events led to Dennis Nilsen's early feelings of isolation?
Let's manifest that for her. But yeah. On another level. I was going to say going into another, hopefully a little bit of...
positivity yeah just bring obviously everybody knows how we feel about ice fuck ice yeah we want them out of minnesota we want them out of everywhere yeah um but we were thinking of just like anything we can do to help yeah and mikey was nice enough to help us find this on minnesota.org and we will link this in our show notes they have a full list of small businesses that you can support
Yes.
So we'll link those in the show notes and we'll try to link them on... I don't think Instagram allows links. I don't think it does either. It drives me nuts. I'm like, can you allow links? I know. Well, we'll link it in the show notes. Go find those. It's just wherever you're listening to, if you hit like more info, it should be right there.
Yeah.
I know sometimes people struggle to find them. Yeah. So check those out. Support some local businesses. Yeah. It's a great way to just...
Because they're going through a lot more than what we're seeing. Yeah. Too. We're being, like, that's the thing. The news is being suppressed, for sure. So just, like, they need all the support they can get.
And anywhere else that you hear advice, a great way to fight back and spend your money in a good way is to shop local. Exactly. Any Etsy shops you can find in areas like that.
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Chapter 4: How did Dennis Nilsen's relationships impact his life choices?
Yeah. You know, we love Etsy.
Support local businesses. Just in general. It's good to do anyway. Yeah, that's just good to do anyway. On a more, like, lighter note, and this is... We need it. We're really segueing. Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't believe I'm segueing here. I mean, we need a segue.
We need a segue. That's just, you know, that's just, that's the way the show goes.
Yeah, that was the business at the top and now we're at the banter. Do you know what a flow state is? Yeah. What is a flow state? I think like a flow state, isn't that when you like really lock in?
I don't, everybody says that, like I keep seeing it on TikTok, people being like, I ate this ice cream or, one thing that I keep seeing people saying is like they take a sip of like the most delicious latte and they enter a flow state.
Yeah. I think it's like a really locked in state of just like ready to fucking I just looked and I just looked it up. It says like being in the zone, complete absorption, focus and enjoyment in whatever activity you are engaged. Okay.
I've enjoyed a lot of things in my life. I don't know that I've ever been in a flow state. Oh, I've been in a flow state so many times.
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Chapter 5: What was the significance of the incident involving David Painter?
Give me examples. When I can sit down in front of a computer and a Word document and write more than three words. That's a flow state. I enter a full flow state. If I'm tap, tap, tapping and shit is rolling out and it's happening, flow state. Okay. If I make a perfect coffee in the morning, immediately enter a flow state. Okay.
Okay.
So I've probably been in a flow state. I'm sure you have. You're just not recognizing it as a flow state. I got to recognize my flow states. When I like organize and feel like I've actually accomplished some kind of organization, I will enter a flow state. Okay. When I organized my pantry, I was in a flow state.
Yeah, you were in a flow state.
All right. All right. All right. Yep. Like I decorate for, and Ash actually helped me this, this time. I decorate for every holiday, like the bathroom that like my kids generally use. And we decorate it for every holiday. Like I always put a bunch of shit in there. You go all out. I love it.
just because it's fun they get home from school and or like they go to brush their teeth and they're like oh my god it's all these like lights and stuff and so for valentine's day this year we went like all out and ash helped me like use the markers that you can write on the glass to like make little candy hearts on the i thought that was so cute the little like conversation hearts
And I think in those moments I enter a flow state.
Okay.
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Chapter 6: What dark fantasies began to emerge in Nilsen's life?
When I was doing those hearts, even though my knees were hurting really bad, I was in a flow state. Yeah.
Yeah. See? All right. So that's a flow state. Okay.
Thank you. I thought of this last night because I saw a talk of a lady being like, oh my God, I just entered a flow state because this latte is so good. And I felt like that was very Gen Z. And I said, have I been in a flow state? I said, I wonder if Alayna knows what a flow state is. And I saved it for the pod. I was going to text you about flow states, but you let it happen.
I think I'm in a flow state when I shop. Oh, you definitely are in a flow state when you shop. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely am.
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Hopefully we can all get into flow states with things we enjoy right now. I like that. There's another tip of the day. Make it your fucking mission. It now is. Yeah. Tomorrow. Right now. I mean, try it now, but it's okay if you're not in that place right now and you need a minute to really get it. Get to your flow state.
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Chapter 7: What led to Dennis Nilsen's first murder?
Or figure out what your flow state thing might be. Okay. Yeah. Tomorrow, wake up, attempt flow state. Whatever you need to do, watch one of those late 90s, early 2000s movies. That'll get you into a flow state. Make an awesome coffee, organize, decorate, just read a book, write down some shit. Do whatever you need to do.
Make sure you do not go to bed tomorrow night until you have entered your flow state, even for a second. Wow. Even if it's just a quick flow state.
Oh, okay. I think we all need that every day. This is like a glass shatter moment. I enter a flow state when I do, I almost said a sclofate. I enter a sclofate. I enter a flow state when I do my skincare or an everything shower. That's a flow state.
All right. I get it now. I get it. So see, there you go. Have a good shower or something. Like tomorrow, make it your business to enter a flow state and then try to enter a flow state just for one second even every day. Just to give yourself that one moment.
Does a flow state need to be a little bit longer, though? A flow state feels longer than one second.
I don't think there's a timeline on flow states. I think as long as you feel like you entered a flow state even for a second.
If you drank every time we said flow state during this, you would die.
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Chapter 8: How did Nilsen dispose of his first victim's body?
You just died.
That's crazy.
But yeah, do that.
I think that's my advice for the day.
I like that.
My advice to get. I'm all about flow states right now. We ordered Jersey Mike's cookies and I'm going to eat one after this.
Oh my God.
I forgot we had that. Oh baby. Not only did we order like one, not only did we order two. We got two mini boxes. And if they had more than mini boxes, we would get two of those too. Hell yeah. Those put me in a flow state.
We're going to need that because we're starting a three part series that is going to be a harrowing. I have to tell you something.
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