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Episode Revisit: Santa’s Dark Helpers

22 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What dark holiday traditions are explored in this episode?

0.166 - 8.229 Alaina Urquhart

Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena. And I'm Ash. And this is a mini morbid. Mini morbid.

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9.091 - 12.1 Ash Kelley

We like it.

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22.492 - 24.537 Alaina Urquhart

We didn't plan that.

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24.557 - 25.559 Ash Kelley

Unplanned.

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25.98 - 46.882 Alaina Urquhart

I went rogue, if you will. Unsolicited morbid. So yeah, welcome to the, it's kind of like a mini morbid episode. That's what our second episode of the week will be. Yeah. From here on out, I think. These are going to be faster and looser and there's not going to be any housekeeping or anything. So we're just going to dive right into it. Let's go do it.

47.383 - 81.945 Alaina Urquhart

Our first episode happens to fall during the holiday season. So we decided Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Merry Kwanzaa, Happy Winter Solstice. all that stuff yeah happy holidays happy holidays uh so we're gonna be hitting some creepy ass holiday traditions and tonight we are going to be talking about not santa claus but his dark ass helpers the dark ones

82.06 - 98.504 Alaina Urquhart

Now, I'm just going to come out and say Europe has some scary ass Christmas traditions. Yeah, they do. I respect it because they are all about teaching kids to be good or they're going to be disemboweled or eaten or beaten with branches.

99.425 - 104.954 Ash Kelley

They don't fuck around. That's why American kids are just such assholes. We don't get scared into not being assholes.

105.495 - 111.064 Alaina Urquhart

We don't have enough demons that are in our like holidays to scare kids.

Chapter 2: Who is Krampus and what is his role during Christmas?

167.608 - 168.51 Alaina Urquhart

So that's kind of fucked up.

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169.151 - 174.279 Ash Kelley

Yeah. Santa, get away. Santa, calm down. Santa, why don't you have any chill?

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174.74 - 176.803 Alaina Urquhart

Yeah, he's like pulling a Night Stalker.

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176.823 - 178.706 Unknown

I was just thinking that.

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180.589 - 195.835 Alaina Urquhart

So most of these traditions, like we said before, they really focus on making your kids behave. That's the main focus for, it seems, European households during Christmas season. Hashtag German parenting.

195.815 - 220.303 Alaina Urquhart

yeah it's just to scare the shit out of your kids to make them behave hey i respect it man so the first one i'm gonna hit tonight for santa's little helpers is arguably the most infamous probably the one that a lot of people know about krampus it's krampus good old krampus krampus um krampus's roots actually don't really have a lot to do with christmas

220.452 - 242.237 Alaina Urquhart

Now we've turned him into a Christmas thing. But they dated back to pre-Germanic paganism in the region. So his name was originally Krampen, which means claw. And basically the legend was that he was the son of the Norse god of the underworld, Hel. Fun. Like literally just Hel, which he kind of is.

242.698 - 242.798

Yeah.

242.778 - 268.275 Alaina Urquhart

He still is. During the 12th century, actually, the Catholic Church tried to banish any Krampus celebrations or any kind of like having him to do with anything because they said he was basically the devil. Oh. And actually in 1934, as recently as 1934, Austria's conservative Christian Social Party also tried to have him eradicated. But none of these things have held and Krampus has lived on.

Chapter 3: What are the characteristics and origins of the Yule Cat?

581.544 - 582.967 Alaina Urquhart

Like, this is legit.

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582.987 - 584.871 Ash Kelley

I'm not interested.

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584.851 - 605.437 Alaina Urquhart

Yeah, it's a lot. And so because of this, there have been injuries and people obviously getting terrified and like traumatized. I mean, yeah. So because of this, they've kind of had to reform it a little bit. And there's some places that require all Krampuses to wear numbers so they can be identified in case of violent behavior.

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605.457 - 609.542 Ash Kelley

Krampus number 612 hit me in the face with that branch.

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609.522 - 613.388 Alaina Urquhart

Krampus number 53 was the one who struck my shins.

613.488 - 614.629 Ash Kelley

Krampus 4, settle down.

614.91 - 621.5 Alaina Urquhart

Settle down. Krampus 4, you're on the edge. Krampus 4. Come on. Bring it in. Keep it together.

621.84 - 622.741 Ash Kelley

God, Krampus.

623.142 - 629.211 Alaina Urquhart

So yeah. And I guess it's called like a Krampus run where they just fucking run down the street.

Chapter 4: How does Frau Perchta punish naughty children?

1067.249 - 1090.793 Alaina Urquhart

And basically, so what they say is seeing this wild hunt in passing, which can you fucking imagine seeing this in passing? It was thought to be an omen that would indicate great misfortune, which is like no shit. It's an omen letting you know that you are losing your damn mind because you're seeing a procession of elves, fairies and demons just fucking up shit. Congratulations. You've lost it.

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1090.813 - 1120.956 Alaina Urquhart

Like, wow. So Frau Birchta or Frau Birchta, she flies around the sky with an army of lost souls around her. Which is pretty metal. Yeah. To say the least. That's badass. Among her army of the night are apparently supposed to be the souls of unbaptized children. Hey-o. Whoops. Here I am. Here I am. Just ashes floating around. Come and get me.

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1120.936 - 1145.252 Alaina Urquhart

uh now the legend also says that if you hear the wind and thunder like rumbling around the mountains on the birchtill nights which i'm not sure exactly what nights those are what you're really hearing is not thunder it's the fucking sounds of the wild hunt so it's like all these demons and perched uh frow perched uh just tooting around doing evil bad shit I don't know. Which would be awesome.

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1148.578 - 1173.976 Alaina Urquhart

So the physical descriptions of Frau Perchta kind of vary. There's a lot of different legends. Some describe her as being actually kind of Krampus-like. While other ones say that she's a tall, white-robed lady, basically old lady. Sometimes, weirdly enough, she's portrayed with one extra big foot. Casual.

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1174.096 - 1197.507 Alaina Urquhart

Which I guess this is supposed to mean that she's a shapeshifter that can take any form she likes. That's what it's supposed to indicate to you. That wouldn't indicate a lot to me. It would just indicate that she had a club foot. I'd be like, why you got an extra foot? Yeah, why you got an extra foot? So in Germany and Austria, they sometimes portray her as a witch named Frau Perchta.

1197.527 - 1226.509 Alaina Urquhart

I originally said her name because it's Perchta and Perchta. And she basically just hands, she will hand out rewards for good kids, but she'll also hand out Some pretty severe punishments for bad kids, like all of these do. It's during the 12 days of Christmas, which is December 25th through Epiphany on January 6th. She's possibly best known not for her rewards that she gives, but for...

1226.489 - 1249.166 Alaina Urquhart

what she does to the bad kids. And what she does is if you're not awesome, she will disembowel you and replace your organs with hot garbage. Wow. That's something that just sticks with you, I think. It sure does. And on the 12th, this all kind of happens on the 12th night of Christmas, which is the Feast of Epiphany.

1249.627 - 1267.959 Alaina Urquhart

That's when she'll creep into homes and she'll either disembowel your ass or she'll leave a piece of silver in the shoes of children and servants who have been good. I take that. Oh, and she also cuts kids' tongues with glass if they lie. Hey, learn your rules. Don't fuck with Frau Perchta.

1269.68 - 1297.794 Alaina Urquhart

Now, there is a slightly different version of this legend, and it's according to Linda Radish, which I probably said her name wrong. She's the author of The Old Magic of Christmas. Now, she says that Frau Perchta was also known as Berchta, like the original legend says, or Bertha. And she can also be referred to as spinstubenfrau or spinning room lady. I see the transition there. Obviously.

Chapter 5: What are the mischievous deeds of the Yule Lads?

1656.604 - 1680.695 Alaina Urquhart

But I guess it's way better than being eaten or beaten or disemboweled. So kids are like, that's fine. I'll take it. I'll take these rotten potatoes. So apparently the Yule Lads used to be way creepier than they are today. But in 1746... Parents were officially banned from actually using Yule Lads to scare their kids.

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1681.697 - 1683.959 Ash Kelley

Like, what would happen if they found out that you did?

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1684 - 1695.114 Alaina Urquhart

Well, and I guess in this whole, like, banning of the Yule Lads and everything, they also banned, like, using Krampus to scare your kids, using any of these. Because, like, they were legit using, like, you're going to get eaten.

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1695.394 - 1717.871 Alaina Urquhart

And kids were scared to go outside during the Christmas time because they were scared they were going to get eaten or disemboweled or beaten or taken away and drowned, like, What a different time of year than we have. What a time to be alive. So the National Museum of Iceland has a list of the 13 Yule Lads and their names and what they do.

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1717.911 - 1737.602 Alaina Urquhart

And I'm going to read this off to you because it's pretty great. Oh, God. Some of these are amazing. So the first Yule Lad is called... Sheep Coat Claude. What he does is he basically just bothers your sheep and tries to suckle on the sheep in farmer's sheds.

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That's just fucked up.

1739.824 - 1755.237 Alaina Urquhart

So... I hate the word suckle. Yeah, never say it again. It's such a bad, bad word. The next one is named Stubby, and he's short and steals food from frying pans, which to that I say, same. I was going to say...

1755.217 - 1756.76 Ash Kelley

We have that in common, stub.

1758.203 - 1787.793 Alaina Urquhart

Me too, stubby. So the next one is called Spoon Licker. And I'm going to let you guess what he does. He hides your forks. Exactly. No, he licks your spoons. That's gross. The next one is called pot scraper or pot licker. And he steals unwashed pots and licks them clean. I mean, that sounds helpful to me. I was just going to say, which I'm like, thanks. Thanks, pot licker.

Chapter 6: Who is Belsnickel and how does he compare to Santa?

2207.419 - 2210.963 Alaina Urquhart

Good, because it sounds wonderful. Like, he sounds just delightful.

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2211.244 - 2220.356 Ash Kelley

It kind of just reminds me of Snickers. Hey, Belsnickel. Okay, so Belsnickel is a man from southwestern German lore.

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2220.396 - 2224.902 Alaina Urquhart

Always Germany, man. Germany has the best dark Santa's helpers.

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2224.983 - 2227.446 Ash Kelley

Yeah, I feel like that's where they're all from.

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2227.727 - 2230.23 Alaina Urquhart

They're cornering the market. Yeah, for real.

2230.79 - 2237.359 Ash Kelley

But he traveled to the United States and he lived on in Pennsylvania in Dutch customs.

2238.06 - 2239.822 Alaina Urquhart

Yeah, because I was going to say I know that name.

2240.082 - 2261.47 Ash Kelley

Or Pennsylvania Dutch. Is that a thing? Yeah, the Pennsylvania Dutch. So he comes to children sometimes before Christmas and he wears like old clothes and like raggedy fur clothes. And he carries a switch, kind of like Krampus, to frighten the kids. Always a switch. But he also has candy. Oh, well, at least he has candy, too. To reward them for their good behavior.

2262.175 - 2268.865 Ash Kelley

So if you're like a little bitch, he's going to hit you with a switch. And if you want candy, he'll give you some.

Chapter 7: What is the legend of Father Whipper and what does he do?

2546.806 - 2551.658 Alaina Urquhart

And now he's just... Whilst eating a boy. While eating a boy. And now he's just back?

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2552.319 - 2553.682 Ash Kelley

Yeah, with a brand new rap.

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With a brand new rap.

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2556.037 - 2559.46 Ash Kelley

With a brand new set of wrapping paper.

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2559.48 - 2562.523 Unknown

Oh, I love it.

2563.684 - 2582.322 Ash Kelley

I love it. My third one is going to sound really shitty when I say it. And I bet this isn't how you say their name. But here we go. Pierre Fouettetard. Fouettetard. Just throw like a ha ha on there.

2582.903 - 2583.023

Ha ha.

2583.003 - 2601.966 Ash Kelley

So he's French and his name translates into Father Whipper. So we'll just call him that. Yeah, just call him Father Whipper. So the legend begins with an evil butcher who carved children to eat. You know, as most legends do. As most fucking butchers do, you know. Have you ever seen Sweetie Todd?

2602.587 - 2603.048 Alaina Urquhart

Yeah.

Chapter 8: How do these dark holiday figures reflect cultural differences?

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