Chapter 1: What happened on March 26, 1997, in Rancho Santa Fe?
hey weirdos i'm ash and i'm elena and this is morbid
do you remember when i was really vulnerable last week and i told you i did a foot mask oh yes and then i said i was like afraid that my feet weren't gonna peel but i was afraid that they weren't gonna peel i'm gonna be really vulnerable again why are my feet still peeling yeah they're gonna go for a while i also did one a few days ago because you inspired me i inspired you oh my god i'm an influencer and mine have also started and it's great mikey mikey did one too debbie peel your feet
Peel them off right now. Peel your feet. It's so good. It is. It's the best. My feet are peeling so much that I almost, God, this is horrible. Sorry for eating. But like, I'm like, do I do one again to like soften the parts that like aren't peeling as easily? Probably not. I would. I was met with a series of head shakes from across the room.
Yeah. You don't want to overdo.
you always go hard you gotta pull this one back one thing about me one thing about me is that i go hard yeah you don't want to like start giving your feet problems that would suck you know well yeah it's fun though do it is i suggest you do it do it you'll you'll feel brand new It's true. What's up with you, Red?
What's up with me? You can pre-order my book, The Butcher Legacy. Let's go. It's coming out August 11th and you can pre-order it on butcherlegacy.com. Or wherever books are sold. Exactly. You can get it anywhere.
I'm excited. Go get it. Pre-order it. Pre-order it. I'm going to start the series from the top.
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Chapter 2: Who was Marshall Applewhite and what were his beliefs?
hell yeah started from the top because i haven't read well she i should say she's read them yeah you know i'm imagine you're like i'm gonna start reading them you're like i'm like i've actually just decided you're doing really good at this whole thing so i should give it a shot no i've read all of them and i was actually just about to say i'm restarting them to get ready for the third one because i have the third one haha
But I haven't read Butcher and the Wren in a long time. I don't even know how many years because it was so long ago at this point. You just keep writing books. It's nuts. Writing books. So here. I'm restarting and I'm going to read them back to back to back. Yeah. And I'm really excited. I love that. The next two are thickies.
I'm excited.
They are. They get exponentially thicker. It's funny because this book is released, but I was with you yesterday and I saw you typing something. I was typing something. I saw you typing something.
I was typing a little something. What were you typing? I don't know. Maybe just a little something. Oh my God. Maybe. I don't know. That's crazy. Once one's done. Once one's done, you just type something else. Just start. Maybe something's brewing.
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Chapter 3: What led to the mass suicide of Heaven's Gate members?
I don't know. Just type until you die.
Exactly. That's what everybody wants from you. That's my motto. Type until you die.
I will. Let's go. So somebody messaged me and said they liked the little, you know, how to make life feel a little less shitty, how it is right now, and a little more like romanticized or slowed down or just give you like little pockets. Of course, we, you know, one person was like, glad you're having a great year. Like, go fuck yourself. And I was like, that's what you got from that?
Okay. Yeah.
You won't be romanticizing your moments. You're not romanticizing anything. Because that's clearly not what I'm saying. Romanticize your Instagram comments. Exactly. Clearly that's not what I'm saying. Romanticize my DMs. But for the most part, you guys have been digging it, which is awesome. Because I'm telling you, it helps a little.
It does.
It helps a little. It helps take a little bit of the edge off of all the fuck shit that is happening because it is complete fuck shit. Fuck ice. Fuck. Fuck. But one thing I said I did was I watched Center Stage at like 5.30 in the morning the other morning.
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Chapter 4: How did the police respond to the Heaven's Gate incident?
And it really set me up for a pretty fucking great day. So what did you watch the next day? Well, and then my little watch list was like, oh, girl, you like Center Stage at 5.30 in the morning? And I said, yeah, I do. And it said, here's some other little gems for you. What do we have? And of course, I mentioned this early, threw me, threw me, drive me crazy. Oh. And I said...
banger all right let's give that a shot guys that banger movie that movie i haven't seen that movie in a long time a true underrated banger it's very of the time i need you to know that right now going in super but that's just where we are you know it is what it is too everything is of the time yeah and but drive me crazy was great that was the other it took me like two mornings to get that through that one
Is Melissa Joan Hart in that? Yeah, of course she is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. She's great. Yep. And the next one I watched after that that I started watching, 10 Things I Hate About You.
Oh! Yeah. 10 Things I Hate About You. I've seen where they're in the bleachers and it... Oh, ruin me. Heath Ledger forever. No, I'll cry right now. Oh, I'll sob on this podcast.
He is... He is just a king in that movie. And the next one I have on my list that I'm going to go to after finishing 10 Things I Hate About You is Can't Hardly Wait. Jennifer Lynn Hewitt.
What happens?
Big party.
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Chapter 5: What were the conditions inside the Heaven's Gate house?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. After graduation. Carlisle from Twilight is in it.
What? Yeah, he plays the jock. Is fucking Seth Green in that?
Yes, okay. He plays a wildly prominent character.
And I think that's why I was like, I remember that movie.
Wait a minute. That'll stay with you. But again, very of the time. So I know my watch list here is, it's like giving me a cue of like, oh, you like this. Like you're in that era. Yes. I'm telling you the nostalgia in the morning of these movies when I just am like doing things and I just put them on. Yeah. Don't have to sit down and like really like engross yourself in them. It's working.
I love that.
It's making me feel good.
That's great.
You know? Good for you.
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Chapter 6: What psychological factors influenced the members of Heaven's Gate?
I saw your face and you were like, what are you saying?
Because I thought at first you were saying my mornings, like I'm starting with Chinese, like I thought you were going to be like Chinese food. And I was like, this is different.
That would be, I wish I could start my mornings with Chinese food.
I was like, wow. No, I'm on Chinese TikTok, Chinese Medicine TikTok. And they're giving you all these like little like bullet points of advice. And you should start your morning with hot water or something hot to like get your belly settled. Oh, I think I have seen that. Shit will change your life. Oh, I like that. I'm having a little hot water with lemon. I don't know.
I rolled up here with my hot tea. Oh, good. I love it. First I had a hot water with lemon, then I had a hot tea. Look at that. The hot bevrosinos. You know, it's the little things. It is. Again, it's the little things. And you'll like this. I'm keeping my feet warm. Oh, yeah. As you should. You should not walk around the house barefoot, according to Chinese medicine. Never have been.
Never will be. Always did.
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Chapter 7: How did the group's beliefs evolve over time?
Won't again. There you go. Look at these. Look at these. Yeah. I ordered these little bitties. They're grippy, so I don't fall on my butt. Yeah, I'm saying. It's good shit. So that's wellness with Alina and Ash. Yeah, so do those things. Crazy ox movies, fuzzy socks, and hot beverages.
If I come up with anything else little that seems to work and make me feel good, I'll let you guys know because we're not gatekeeping happiness over here. Maybe I'll start eating Chinese food in the morning.
Yeah. I'll let you know if it works. Exactly. We'll share it. I like your movie recommendations, though, so please continue watching ridiculous movies and telling us about them. Hell yeah. All right. I'm going to talk about something that is also nostalgic. No. No, it might be. Maybe to you. Yeah. I wasn't alive. No, I was. I was. I remember when this happened.
Chapter 8: What was the aftermath of the Heaven's Gate tragedy?
Do you really? I mean, it was probably a pretty big deal. We're going to be talking about having skates. And if you were alive and functioning, this will be nostalgic. Unlike me, it will be nostalgic for you, I suppose. I don't know if you'll long for this time, but I don't know your life. So let's talk about it.
In mid-March 1997, 43-year-old Richard Ford finally spoke out against Father Doe, who was known to the rest of the world as 65-year-old Marshall Applewhite. For over 20 years, he had been slowly building a following as the leader of Heaven's Gate, which was this religious cult. Their beliefs were...
kind of a blend of Christianity, science fiction, and like New Age practices, but they were bonkers. Wow. Wow. Wow. By the mid-1990s, Marshall Applewhite had attracted over 40 men and women who were basically just fed up with their day-to-day lives, fed up with society. Ages in the group actually ranged all the way from people in their mid-20s to their early 70s.
Wow.
So this was like a vast range of people. Yeah. Period. Period. Period. According to Marshall Applewhite, I remember this.
Well, it was like a huge thing.
It was a big fucking deal. It was like nuts. Yeah. I don't recall.
Yeah. I don't recall. I don't recall. We went out on the front lawn and we waited for it.
Did you? Yeah. I think I was still in Hawaii at that point. So I wasn't with you. Yeah. Unfortunately. You were not with us on the front lawn. I wish I had that experience with you. I'm bummed. It's pretty fun.
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